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post #9226 of 14697
Keep this in mind as we do argue with each other on smAll details and other issues . But overall I a have come to trust many people here and and there views. I never mean to be an end all guy , but I know I do come across as one at times . But I still value the ones I trust . And the one you mentioned is one of them. Also I think the majority of people who buy amps really do not know just what the full potential of the headphones they just bought. And this is greatly Amplified with a world class headphone lie a HD800 or HE 6. These headphones are capable of fantastic realism when given the fight combinations.

Maybe I am just added to the mystery but that is just my intention read and rad and read . And listen while you do as this is how we learn .

Al
post #9227 of 14697
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Originally Posted by kaesar94 View Post


With preproman, there is the first negative comment around the Questyle with the HD800. It's a very sad moment for me mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif

I would not take a single negative comment about the CMA800R to heart too strongly, especially in view of the generally very positive comments about this amp that have appeared to date.  Everyone is entitled their opinion, of course, but as a previous owner of a GS-X (MkI version), I would argue that the overall sound signature of both amps is likely to be much closer than further apart.  I'm not saying they are identical in SQ but I would be hesitant to say one is necessarily better.  I have listened carefully to a very wide range of music and source types including hi-res PCM and DSD (using an Invicta dac) with my own CMA800R and have not heard any of the apparent "deficiencies" described in comparison with the GS-X (narrower and less deep soundstage, less bass punch, less transparency, too smooth, etc).  Other variables that could determine perceived differences also need to be considered as well -- for example is the GS-X Mk2 in balanced mode being compared to a the Questyle in single ended mode?   Some people feel that balanced slightly improves sound staging and bass response in the HD800s.  The bottom line is that we all need to remember that it is good to have a variety of different opinions, both positive and negative -- if everyone actually thought a particularly amp, dac, etc were absolutely perfect, I would be a little suspicious myself.   

post #9228 of 14697
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I would not take a single negative comment about the CMA800R to heart too strongly, especially in view of the generally very positive comments about this amp that have appeared to date.  Everyone is entitled their opinion, of course, but as a previous owner of a GS-X (MkI version), I would argue that the overall sound signature of both amps is likely to be much closer than further apart.  I'm not saying they are identical in SQ but I would be hesitant to say one is necessarily better.  I have listened carefully to a very wide range of music and source types including hi-res PCM and DSD (using an Invicta dac) with my own CMA800R and have not heard any of the apparent "deficiencies" described in comparison with the GS-X (narrower and less deep soundstage, less bass punch, less transparency, too smooth, etc).  Other variables that could determine perceived differences also need to be considered as well -- for example is the GS-X Mk2 in balanced mode being compared to a the Questyle in single ended mode?   Some people feel that balanced slightly improves sound staging and bass response in the HD800s.  The bottom line is that we all need to remember that it is good to have a variety of different opinions, both positive and negative -- if everyone actually thought a particularly amp, dac, etc were absolutely perfect, I would be a little suspicious myself.   

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If your talking about this amp:  http://www.amazon.com/Questyle-CMA800R-Current-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00GM7F8E8  I got an od chance to hear it a week or so ago.  On a pure humble as I never really knew anything about the amp.  

In short.  It rocks with the HE-500s / not so much with the HD800s IMO.  Although it did sound pretty good, It lacks the transparency and the full bottom end of the GS-X mk2.  I still have not heard any of the Sennheiser amps so I can't make any comments.  

The GS-X mk2 is still the best SS amp I've heard with the HD800.

In order of preference and IMO..

GS-X mk2 / F1J
BHA-1
4 Channel Beta 22
GS-1
Mojo
I would rank that CMA800R somewhere with my M^3

Was the HD800 connected to the HeadAmp Gs-x in balanced mode?
post #9229 of 14697
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Was the HD800 connected to the HeadAmp Gs-x in balanced mode?

Referring to my own experience with the Mk1 version -- yes I did use my HD800s in balanced mode, but not the Questyle (I only have one).  If my auditory memory serves me correctly, I would say both amps are nearly equivalent, with perhaps my own preference leaning toward the Questyle.  Incidentally both amps were paired with my Invicta dac. 

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Just want to point out that the GS-X mk1 and mk2 are quite a bit different in SQ. There is no comparison, the mk2 is a much better amp IMO.

post #9231 of 14697
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Originally Posted by twsmith View Post
 

Referring to my own experience with the Mk1 version -- yes I did use my HD800s in balanced mode, but not the Questyle (I only have one).  If my auditory memory serves me correctly, I would say both amps are nearly equivalent, with perhaps my own preference leaning toward the Questyle.  Incidentally both amps were paired with my Invicta dac. 

 

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Just want to point out that the GS-X mk1 and mk2 are quite a bit different in SQ. There is no comparison, the mk2 is a much better amp IMO.

 

OOOOOOHHHHH ok, now it makes sense. While it's quite obvious that the MKII (4000$) can be slightly better of the CMA800R (1500$), it's pretty interesting to say that the Questyle can compete head on with much expensive amplifiers like the GS-X MKI, also considering that the HeadAmp was used in balanced mode. At this point i have to think that the CMA800R can be THE end-game solution for HD800 under 2 - 2.5k$.

 

Am i wrong?

post #9232 of 14697
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Originally Posted by kaesar94 View Post
 

 

 

OOOOOOHHHHH ok, now it makes sense. While it's quite obvious that the MKII (4000$) can be slightly better of the CMA800R (1500$), it's pretty interesting to say that the Questyle can compete head on with much expensive amplifiers like the GS-X MKI, also considering that the HeadAmp was used in balanced mode. At this point i have to think that the CMA800R can be THE end-game solution for HD800 under 2 - 2.5k$.

 

Am i wrong?

 

Very much so, but I'd want to hear the Questyle first before saying it competes. 

post #9233 of 14697
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Originally Posted by kaesar94 View Post
 

 

 

OOOOOOHHHHH ok, now it makes sense. While it's quite obvious that the MKII (4000$) can be slightly better of the CMA800R (1500$), it's pretty interesting to say that the Questyle can compete head on with much expensive amplifiers like the GS-X MKI, also considering that the HeadAmp was used in balanced mode. At this point i have to think that the CMA800R can be THE end-game solution for HD800 under 2 - 2.5k$.

 

Am i wrong?

 

Well, except the gs-x mk2 is not $4000..more like $2800-3000

post #9234 of 14697
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Originally Posted by kaesar94 View Post
 

 

 

OOOOOOHHHHH ok, now it makes sense. While it's quite obvious that the MKII (4000$) can be slightly better of the CMA800R (1500$), it's pretty interesting to say that the Questyle can compete head on with much expensive amplifiers like the GS-X MKI, also considering that the HeadAmp was used in balanced mode. At this point i have to think that the CMA800R can be THE end-game solution for HD800 under 2 - 2.5k$.

 

Am i wrong?

mk2 is not 4000 - did they up the price? 

post #9235 of 14697
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mk2 is not 4000 - did they up the price? 
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Ups...sorry for the mistake.....maybe 4000$ for the DACT version including GST.
post #9236 of 14697
With the better volume control it is 750 in 4 payments . So that is really close to 4000. To me.

Al
post #9237 of 14697
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

With the better volume control it is 750 in 4 payments . So that is really close to 4000. To me.

Al

 

Let do some math guys:

 

$750 + $750 + $750 + $750 = $3000 / $750 x 4 = $3000

 

Stay in school :p 

post #9238 of 14697
Yea I am stupid sorry. And school was over about 35 years ago. What I need is glasses and a calculator. lol.

I wonder why the Amp has an output of 30 volts in bal but only 1 watt. To bad it might of been a good one for the HE6 .

Al
post #9239 of 14697
Which amp?
post #9240 of 14697
The new one mk2
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