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post #9151 of 13878
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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post
 

 

That sounds like the perfect entry level HD800 setup, how are you liking it?

 

I unplugged the MG Head and plugged the Vali last Tuesday evening and I had only Three or Four hours of listening since tuesday and my opinion is not done yet.  Vali & MG Head sound differently so my brain needs to be used to his new environment.  

 

I really love my MG Head sound but I really feel it lacks too much transparency. With the Vali, transparency is back but at the cost of the brightness. That been said, I can't say the sound become harsher. More transparent, more detailed, less warm but still enjoyable for good recordings. Right now, if I could ask Donald North to tune my Sonett2 for my tastes, i'd ask him to tune it between the MG head and the Vali. The ideal amp for my tastes would keep the transparency and speed from Vali with something of the warmer/mellower tone of the MG Head. That's why I'm looking forward Eee Pee's impressions. :popcorn:

 

I really thought the lack of transparency and the slightly unnatural ( with HD800) warmess came from the REGA DAC. But with the Vali, my REGA sounds much more detailed for sure.  I tried the AudioGD NFB12.1+ Vali combo too & the NFB12.1 is obviously darker than the Rega. with the NFB12.1 I didn't detect the analytical & slightly bright nature of the Vali. The REGA dac is a good dac for HD800 and I thing i'll have to spend time & money to find a real upgrade. I thought to someting like a Metrum Octave MKII maybe but i'm not convinced the upgrade worthes the extra money. I hope i'll have  a chance to try it somewhere.

 

You realy must take what I say with a big grain of salt. I know my brain ( and maybe the vali not burned enough too ? ) is not fully accustomed to the Vali but right now I consider the Vali is a bit overhyped here. For example I remember to have a better result with my Meier Corda Jazz ( very good dynamics & transparency but more neutral with a fuller tone & better bass extension from what I remember) . Ok it's a 400$ Solid state amp but it offers more features ( Crossfeed, gain settings) more power & less shortcomings ( Output impedance , microphonics) and I read many times the Vali is a killer amp under 1000$. So the comparison is not so unfair I guess. 

 

I really would like to have my Jazz at home to compare directly to this Vali.   

 

Work in progress :). as I said above, my opinion is not definitely made. I need much more time to evaluate dacs or amps. 


Edited by Sorrodje - 3/14/14 at 2:38pm
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^ Similar finding for me but between Crack and Vali. I now find my Questyle the best of both, though I can't describe it as warm. I thought I'd miss the warmth but the reason I liked the warmth was more how it smoothed the sound. The Questyle is even smoother than the Crack while having better detailing and blackness than the Vali, and is not bright or thin sounding at all.
post #9153 of 13878

Here's part of my weekend plans.  And a size reference for ya, Sorrodje.

 

 

 

Both amps will be fresh to me as I've been using a Mjolnir for quite some time lately.

 

Here's to a long, slow weekend.  Cheers.

 

:beerchug:

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Here's a quickie for you guys. Is it worth picking up a Vali as a stop gap to my $1.5k solution if I already have the Lyr?

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@Eee Pee : :beerchug: .... thanks for the picture.

 

 

 

 


Edited by Sorrodje - 3/14/14 at 2:34pm
post #9156 of 13878
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post
 

Here's a quickie for you guys. Is it worth picking up a Vali as a stop gap to my $1.5k solution if I already have the Lyr?

 

With a price of 129$ , I think there's no risk even if you don't like it. ;)  . The Vali definitely worthes its price so you can judge its value by yourself :D

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Here's a quickie for you guys. Is it worth picking up a Vali as a stop gap to my $1.5k solution if I already have the Lyr?
It's great even if only as a reference point that many people have experienced, so you can give your own take on this combo. Don't be surprised if it's worse than Lyr though. Many have said the Vali is great for HD800, and Lyr isn't, but that's probably based on price performance than a straight comparison.
post #9158 of 13878

haha I don't know why I would have expected any other answer from you guys. "Hey, should I spend money?" "Absolutely!" I'm not a hard person to sell. :beerchug:

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If you've got the Lyr, I'd say no ulness you want to check it out of curiosity.  No/very low noise floor/ringing with the Lyr and from what I recall, the Lyr was better with the HD800.  Don't have them side by side for comparison so going from memory. 

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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post

Here's a quickie for you guys. Is it worth picking up a Vali as a stop gap to my $1.5k solution if I already have the Lyr?

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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post

haha I don't know why I would have expected any other answer from you guys. "Hey, should I spend money?" "Absolutely!" I'm not a hard person to sell. beerchug.gif
When do you plan to get a $1500 amp? Other than for comparison purposes, little point in getting Vali if you're getting the high end amp soon.
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Sell the Lyr (crappy pairing with the HD800 IMO), grab a Vali (used or new) and use the rest of the money from the Lyr to save for something higher end. 

post #9162 of 13878
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post
 

Sell the Lyr (crappy pairing with the HD800 IMO), grab a Vali (used or new) and use the rest of the money from the Lyr to save for something higher end. 

I'm not getting rid of the Lyr. It pairs well with other cans I have and is very decent with the HD 800. There's a place for it on my desk at this point.

 

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When do you plan to get a $1500 amp? Other than for comparison purposes, little point in getting Vali if you're getting the high end amp soon.

Ehh. 2-6 months? Maybe sooner if my damn bonuses get here.

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If you listen primarily to HD800s then I think the Vali is worth getting, esp. as a temporary amp or for a second system.

 

Like sorrodje I am using the Vali with the HD800s and the Rega DAC while I wait for the gs-x. I'm impressed how great it sounds with the HD800s, esp. for the price.

post #9164 of 13878

Ehh, I'll grab one for fun.

 

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  • AURALiC Taurus MKII: $1899, ss, single-ended, balanced, RCA+balanced preamp
  • Questyle CMA800R: $1499, ss, single-ended (2), balanced, RCA preamp
  • Lehmannaudio Linear SE: ss, single-ended (2), RCA preamp
  • Senn HDVA 600: $1499, ss, single-ended (2), balanced (2), balanced preamp?
  • Bryston BHA-1: $1395, ss, single-ended, balanced (2), balanced preamp?
  • Luxman P-1u: ss, single-ended (2), RCA preamp
  • Schiit Ragnarok: $1499, ss, single-ended, balanced, RCA preamp, balanced preamp?

 

 

Speaking of my larger amp purchase, I'm focusing on the top two listed above right now, but probably wont make a decision until Innerfidelity's Wall of Fame for amps is up. Hopefully that's soon.

post #9165 of 13878
The hdvd800 and 600 have a balanced and SE. Analog input. So yes .

Al
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