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post #9061 of 24295
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post

 

  • Questyle CMA800R (ss, single-ended (2), balanced, RCA preamp)
  • Lehmannaudio Linear SE (ss, single-ended (2), RCA preamp)
  • Senn HDVA 600 (ss, single-ended (2), balanced (2), balanced preamp?)
  • Bryston BHA-1 (ss, single-ended, balanced (2), balanced preamp?)
  • Luxman P-1u (ss, single-ended (2), RCA preamp)
  • Schiit Ragnarok (ss, single-ended, balanced, RCA preamp, balanced preamp?)

My requirements are a solid-state amp with single-ended headphone outputs and a preamp to run powered speakers. The signature needs to not add much color to the HD 800 and compliment the soundstage, separation, detail, and resolution. I'm trying to keep in in the area of $1500. Optionally, balanced headphone outputs would be nice.

 

Anything else I should throw onto this list to check out? Also, are those balanced output in the rear of the of the amp that I marked in red made to drive powered external monitors?

post #9062 of 24295
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It's a big concern.  And I hope y'all can accept that I'm not trolling here: I am seriously interested in this headphone.  With the Alpha Dogs, I'm curious about what the next step will bring me. The HD800's are a logical choice, but not if they aren't perfect.  Cosmetic or not, if I shell out $1500 for anything audio-related I expect it to be perfect.

 

I think Mike F's pair of HD800 may be one of the very rare pair with imperfect cosmetics, although it doesn't affect SQ. And if you want to wait for the 'perfect' headphone before shelling out your money, chances are you're never going to get them because there aren't any IMO.

post #9063 of 24295
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post

My requirements are a solid-state amp with single-ended headphone outputs and a preamp to run powered speakers. The signature needs to not add much color to the HD 800 and compliment the soundstage, separation, detail, and resolution. I'm trying to keep in in the area of $1500. Optionally, balanced headphone outputs would be nice.

Anything else I should throw onto this list to check out? Also, are those balanced output in the rear of the of the amp that I marked in red made to drive powered external monitors?
Lol Questyle should be 0.5 balanced. You need two to go balanced, each acts as monoblocks in balanced mode. This is a good thing to me though. If you get a balanced amp and don't use the balanced out, chances are you're only using half of the internal circuit and thus half the amp. Kinda wasting you money that way. With the Questyle, you get to use the entire amp with single ended, and when you're ready to go balanced you get another one. Your money is being used 100% either way.
post #9064 of 24295
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Lol Questyle should be 0.5 balanced. You need two to go balanced, each acts as monoblocks in balanced mode. This is a good thing to me though. If you get a balanced amp and don't use the balanced out, chances are you're only using half of the internal circuit and thus half the amp. Kinda wasting you money that way. With the Questyle, you get to use the entire amp with single ended, and when you're ready to go balanced you get another one. Your money is being used 100% either way.

This is probably why, based solely on the objective functions, the CMA800R is at the top of this list. Although that's kind of impressive features in the Ragnarok for the price. They need to get that thing out the door so I can hear some HD 800 impressions with it.

post #9065 of 24295
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post
 

This is probably why, based solely on the objective functions, the CMA800R is at the top of this list. Although that's kind of impressive features in the Ragnarok for the price. They need to get that thing out the door so I can hear some HD 800 impressions with it.

 

If the Ragnarok pairs unbelievably good with HD800, than I would have to endure what will become the torment of the century (Schiit products cost irrationally expensive in NZ).

post #9066 of 24295
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post

I think Mike F's pair of HD800 may be one of the very rare pair with imperfect cosmetics, although it doesn't affect SQ. And if you want to wait for the 'perfect' headphone before shelling out your money, chances are you're never going to get them because there aren't any IMO.

But it seems as though this 'defect' is present on many other peoples 27xxx and 28xxx SN's, not just my pair. I agree with the second half of your post though.
Edited by Mike F - 3/11/14 at 2:17pm
post #9067 of 24295
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post
 

My requirements are a solid-state amp with single-ended headphone outputs and a preamp to run powered speakers. The signature needs to not add much color to the HD 800 and compliment the soundstage, separation, detail, and resolution. I'm trying to keep in in the area of $1500. Optionally, balanced headphone outputs would be nice.

 

Anything else I should throw onto this list to check out? Also, are those balanced output in the rear of the of the amp that I marked in red made to drive powered external monitors?

 

Violectric V200 is a great choice also. It has balanced inputs but SE outputs, lots of people recommend it.

post #9068 of 24295
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Originally Posted by Mike F View Post


But it seems as though this 'defect' is present on many other peoples 27xxx and 28xxx SN's, not just my pair. I agree with the second half of your post though.

 

Ah than in that case I guess it would be better for anyone to put on half any plan on getting an HD800, or go to a store with HD800 available and ask them to get them out and see in person whether it's defective or not.

post #9069 of 24295

At work, ill check my pair later today and report back. 28xxx, though I swear I didn't see anything wrong with mine out of the box.

post #9070 of 24295
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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post

Violectric V200 is a great choice also. It has balanced inputs but SE outputs, lots of people recommend it.
I would go Mjolnir instead. Fairly similar sound for $250 less.
post #9071 of 24295
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I would go Mjolnir instead. Fairly similar sound for $250 less.

 

Have you compared those to back to back?

 

I was under the impression that the mjolnir was a fairly upfront in your face presentation while the violectric (which I've heard) was the more laid back one with a fuller bass. At least that's what I've read about the mjolnir...

post #9072 of 24295
I've owned the Mjolinor, HDVD800, and now the Lehmann Linear SE. To my ear, the hdvd800 was the perfect and best match. However I returned it when It didn't sound good on the AKG K712pro I was also using at the time. For an amp just for the hd800, the Sennheiser is hard to beat. If your looking to run multiple cans, I preferred the Lehman. If you already have a DAC, you can save hundreds of dollars by opting for the HDVD600.
post #9073 of 24295
Thanks for posting I keep saying it's the best I have heard and get bashed by some. I do not understand why the hdvd800 or 600 gets bashed.

Al
post #9074 of 24295
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Have you compared those to back to back?

I was under the impression that the mjolnir was a fairly upfront in your face presentation while the violectric (which I've heard) was the more laid back one with a fuller bass. At least that's what I've read about the mjolnir...
No, different times. I would imagine the V200 was auditioned with the V800 and the Mjolnir with the Gungnir, which explains the sound you've been told about. The V800 is somewhat relaxed, while the Gungnir is very aggressive. The amps themselves are pretty similar. Smooth and clear but lacking air and ultimate transparency.
post #9075 of 24295
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Originally Posted by macbob713 View Post

I've owned the Mjolinor, HDVD800, and now the Lehmann Linear SE. To my ear, the hdvd800 was the perfect and best match. However I returned it when It didn't sound good on the AKG K712pro I was also using at the time. For an amp just for the hd800, the Sennheiser is hard to beat. If your looking to run multiple cans, I preferred the Lehman. If you already have a DAC, you can save hundreds of dollars by opting for the HDVD600.

 

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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Thanks for posting I keep saying it's the best I have heard and get bashed by some. I do not understand why the hdvd800 or 600 gets bashed.

Al

 

Interesting stuff. What would you say it was that the Sennheiser amps they did so well if you don't mind me asking. I haven't heard them myself.

 

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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


No, different times. I would imagine the V200 was auditioned with the V800 and the Mjolnir with the Gungnir, which explains the sound you've been told about. The V800 is somewhat relaxed, while the Gungnir is very aggressive. The amps themselves are pretty similar. Smooth and clear but lacking air and ultimate transparency.

 

I heard the V200 in a shop and thought it sounded great, the shop used a hegel HD2 dac which is farily basic but pretty smooth.

 

But if you say that it's the gungnir that's aggressive that could explain the forum comments I've been reading about the mjolnir! Thank's for clearing that up.

 

Maybe the mjolnir really is a great amp for the HD800, it just needs the right dac.

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