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post #8911 of 12362

I've been tempted to get another pair with the newer drivers just to find out if the veil is there. 

 

I know for sure that the pair I used to own had the famous veil. 

post #8912 of 12362
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Hey guys, is it just me or does most of Genesis recordings treble sounds peaky? With HD800 of course.
"selling England by the pound" sounds fine to me. On WA2 though

I think that's an excellent album, I have it on SACD. Another one I've got by early Genesis is " Foxtrot ", also on SACD, and also ( IMO ) an excellent album.
post #8913 of 12362
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<rant>

 

Absolutely agree with you there. It seems like certain cans have certain power words attached to them and then they're continuously described as such, mostly by people who have little to no experience with them. "The HD 800 is bright and cold." No, it is not. "The HD 650 is veiled." Nope, not to my ears. "The HD 700's treble is harsh and flawed." Ehh, maybe under certain conditions, but again, not to me.

 

Nothing gets me going more around here when you have people speaking out of inexperience and spitting out rhetoric based on the popular opinion. Go make your own or don't add to the misinformation.

 

</rant>

 

Sorry, kinda a crabby morning. :)

I know what you mean. Also, its so easy to get influenced off others words when reading reviews and such. Especially if the reviewer is well respected.. If he or she says a headphone is 'such and such' you will inevitably be listening out for 'such and such' when you finally hear them. I never realised that the HD650 was veiled until I joined head-fi :rolleyes: and I'd had 5 good years with them before then... Fancy never knowing that they were veiled all along ha! I just thought they were easy on the ears with a nice warm tone.

 

I have to say however and ime, most headphones that I've heard do have some degree of colouring that will always be there no matter what amp or source is used. They will always imprint their character on the sound. My point about the HD800 is that it is quite an exception. Sure there will be colour there under the microscope so to speak - as this is unavoidable, but they are the most transparent (none existing) speaker/transducer component that I've ever heard.   

post #8914 of 12362
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I tend to agree with most of what you said...but the HD650s I owned were really, really veiled.   Perhaps the varying opinions are the result of different drivers (the ones I had did not have the silver version).

 

The version I own is the silver version and they are very picky about their amping. In fact... they are more picky about the amping than the HD800 if you ask me. But when you get it right there is no veil and there are still some songs and genres that they do better than my HD800's.

 

Also. Whenever someone references Genesis i have to post this video :D

 

 

Sorry. :o It's some kind of unspoken internet law.


Edited by TwoEars - 3/7/14 at 11:51am
post #8915 of 12362
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I tend to agree with most of what you said...but the HD650s I owned were really, really veiled.   Perhaps the varying opinions are the result of different drivers (the ones I had did not have the silver version).

Yup. Just to be clear, I'm wasn't ranting against people opinions. Everyone's ears are different. I'm just say I like the impressions to be backed by experience.

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Sorry. :o It's some kind of unspoken internet law.

You are entirely correct.

post #8917 of 12362
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Its the transparency of the HD800 rather than them being amp picky. Feed them a good amp and they will sound good - and price doesn't have to come into the equation. It's just a case of remembering that they are 300 ohms and they will appreciate high impedance output over low. A low impedance/high current amp will give them an overly fed treble and not much beef below.   

 

 

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Not always... :wink_face:

 

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Ok I'm generalising :)

 

But my point is, is that the HD800's aren't bass light or overly bright. They are very transparent. And 300 ohm. Remembering these two factors and you will find happiness :D (As long as you can find a good amp... But that's another story)

 

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That I can fully agree with.  :biggrin:

 

 

Good points.  My F1J seems to bring out the bass in these headphones pretty well.  

post #8918 of 12362
Hi.. Whilst awaiting the arrival of my new cable, I'd like to get some inputs on how difficult it is to remove the original HD800 cables. Are the plugs very tight? Is it a simple straight pull? I'm a bit nervous .. smily_headphones1.gif

Any tricks or tips?


Thanks
post #8919 of 12362

I am curious about the EQ process with the HD800. Questions:

 

1. What is the process and software required for a Mac?

2. Do you need to get the frequency response from Sennheiser or is there some way to view it live as you make adjustments?

 

Current chain: Macbook Pro (Audirvana) > USB > Chord Hugo > HD800 with stock cable

post #8920 of 12362
They pull straight down. And they are keyed so whe putting them back they must be turned till they go inn .
Al
post #8921 of 12362
Use the same program you use to play your music. It should have an EQ I it. . And raise the the bass about 3 db from 200 down. And at 6 k lower it about 3 db . That is a good start.

and use them for a while .

Al
post #8922 of 12362

In Audirvana + (not sure if it works in Audrvana free)

- got to preferences

- got to Audio Units

in the first drop down, select: AppleAUGraphicEQ- ensure Use AudioUnits Effects and Realtime is cheated here so you can cage on the fly without stopping A+

- Click configure & change to your delight - note that you can save presets

 

I spent a month playing around with this, large changes, subtle changes (<2.5db) and alway found I preferred it with no EQ so turned it off.  YMMV

 

Hope this helps,

M

 

 

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Current chain: Macbook Pro (Audirvana) > USB > Chord Hugo > HD800 with stock cable

post #8923 of 12362
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Hi.. Whilst awaiting the arrival of my new cable, I'd like to get some inputs on how difficult it is to remove the original HD800 cables. Are the plugs very tight? Is it a simple straight pull? I'm a bit nervous .. smily_headphones1.gif

Any tricks or tips?


Thanks
They can be pretty darn tight the first few times you unplug them, but they loosen up slightly as you cycle them. Careful to not pull the plug towards the metal screen or you will scratch it.
post #8924 of 12362
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Originally Posted by binot View Post

Hi.. Whilst awaiting the arrival of my new cable, I'd like to get some inputs on how difficult it is to remove the original HD800 cables. Are the plugs very tight? Is it a simple straight pull? I'm a bit nervous .. smily_headphones1.gif

Any tricks or tips?


Thanks


Yep, the first time can be kinda tight. I used a wiggling twisting motion to get them out.  Like was said just be careful not to ding the paint or the screens.  A smooth controlled pull should do it.

post #8925 of 12362
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

Good points.  My F1J seems to bring out the bass in these headphones pretty well.  

I think a lot of that has to do with the high(80 ohms) output impedance of the F1J though, but a lot of people like the 800s on high output impedance amps, like OTL tube amps, so its not necessarily a bad thing.

 

Man i can't wait for my Super 7 and HD800s to show up!

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