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Welp, my DAC died last night. Looks like I wont be using my new HD 800 anytime soon now.

 

The Bifrost Uber?

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The Bifrost Uber?

Si.

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Im also enjoying my E1 Muses. Ive tried a lot of amps and the E1 is definitely a keeper. Im looking forward to hearing your impressions too!

You have a BH Crack also right? How would you compare the amp portion of the E1? (I guess that is assuming you use the E1 as DAC for both)

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You have a BH Crack also right? How would you compare the amp portion of the E1? (I guess that is assuming you use the E1 as DAC for both)

Yes I do have a Crack (no Speedball) and I do use the E1 as a DAC for both.

The simple answer is that the Crack has more mid-bass which makes it sound a bit "lusher" and "thicker." It gives the HD 800 a little more meat on the bone but a slightly softer focus. In comparison, the E1 gives a feeling of more clarity and speed. It sounds more "athletic."

But the E1 is not a "detail monster." Unlike the Objective2 and Benchmark DAC1, the E1 does not lean on the thin sterile side. I think the E1 walks kind of the ideal middle ground, if that makes sense...lol.
Edited by palmfish - 2/28/14 at 11:17am
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Yes I do have a Crack (no Speedball) and I do use the E1 as a DAC for both.

The simple answer is that the Crack has more mid-bass which makes it sound a bit "lusher" and "thicker." It gives the HD 800 a little more meat on the bone but a slightly softer focus. In comparison, the E1 gives a feeling of more clarity and speed. It sounds more "athletic."

But the E1 is not a "detail monster." Unlike the Objective2 and Benchmark DAC1, the E1 does not lean on the thin sterile side. I think the E1 walks kind of the ideal middle ground, if that makes sense...lol.


I had a crack with speedball (which is now sold) that I used to use with the E1. I could hear "slightly" more bass with the crack, but again, to me the difference wasn't enough to make me want to keep the crack over the built in amp on the E1.  I can get almost the same sound by applying a little EQ...

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Which specific freq band do you boost ?

 

Just the very, very low end. Below 200 Hz or so. I even scaled it down to be just a +1.5 dB bass boost recently.

 

Honestly though, it's not needed most of the time and doesn't effect most music I listen to. It's just for electronica where it gives the music an overall slightly "fuller" presentation.

 

It's very subtle and there is definitley no booming bass but there is a slighly tonality shift towards having more "body" that I personally prefer.

 

I could all be synergy based of course, I use a Anedio D1 sabre dac which has a presentation that is "drenched in sunlight" as I think John Darko so eloquently put it.  It's quite possible that if you, for instance, use a Audio GD reference 7 (which I think has a pretty dark tone) there is no need for a bass boost.

 

Let you ears be your guide...

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Well guys, Ive got a brand new pair of HD-800s coming and along with an Eddie Current Super 7, with some apparently sweet NOS tubes. So I am about to join the club. Gonna do some lengthy comparisons against the HV and 009s

 

Edit: though both the amp and headphones will be in here a week or so, my dac, the master 7, is on the same slow boat as my KGSSHV and 009s, so it won't be here for like 3 more weeks at the soonest. So I guess I will be using my computers headphone out till then :o


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Well guys, Ive got a brand new pair of HD-800s coming and along with an Eddie Current Super 7, with some apparently sweet NOS tubes. So I am about to join the club. Gonna do some lengthy comparisons against the HV and 009s

 

Edit: though both the amp and headphones will be in here a week or so, my dac, the master 7, is on the same slow boat as my KGSSHV and 009s, so it won't be here for like 3 more weeks at the soonest. So I guess I will be using my computers headphone out till then :o

 

Good choices! :D

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Good choice and congrats...

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Well guys, Ive got a brand new pair of HD-800s coming and along with an Eddie Current Super 7, with some apparently sweet NOS tubes. So I am about to join the club. Gonna do some lengthy comparisons against the HV and 009s



 



Edit: though both the amp and headphones will be in here a week or so, my dac, the master 7, is on the same slow boat as my KGSSHV and 009s, so it won't be here for like 3 more weeks at the soonest. So I guess I will be using my computers headphone out till then " src="http://files.head-fi.org/images/smilies/redface.gif" />


 



I was eye-balling that Super 7 in the sales thread really hard. Looks like you bought it before i could blow my money. Congrats on an end-game setup.

Sorry about the 3 weeks of hell you are going to have to listen to using on-board audio........
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Well guys, Ive got a brand new pair of HD-800s coming and along with an Eddie Current Super 7, with some apparently sweet NOS tubes. So I am about to join the club. Gonna do some lengthy comparisons against the HV and 009s

 

 

 

Edit: though both the amp and headphones will be in here a week or so, my dac, the master 7, is on the same slow boat as my KGSSHV and 009s, so it won't be here for like 3 more weeks at the soonest. So I guess I will be using my computers headphone out till then <img data-cke-saved-src=

 



I was eye-balling that Super 7 in the sales thread really hard. Looks like you bought it before i could blow my money. Congrats on an end-game setup.

Sorry about the 3 weeks of hell you are going to have to listen to using on-board audio........

 

Yeah I bought Radio_head's Super 7.

 

Yeah, it'll probably end up being pretty rough, and it wouldn't even be worth it to buy something else cheap to use till then, it'll only be a few weeks, I'll make it!

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Which specific freq band do you boost ?

If I can just chip in here... Its relatively easy to eq bass compared to treble where you can do a lot more damage than good if you don't what you are doing.

 

Try and aim for the largest peak at 100-200hz and make a gradual curve. Looking at the headroom graphs for reference is helpful :)

http://www.headphone.com/headphones/sennheiser-hd-800.php 

Try and emulate what the freq line is already. Adding or taking away 2 db but 3 at the most. I say this because any more and you risk distorting everything.

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So first sorta full night of listening to the HD 800 and I'm still not ready to give impressions about sound, but I can give impressions on fit and comfort.

 

The HD 800 is fairly light on my head. Unlike most full-sized Sennheisers, these have a very light clamping force. Too light. Leaning my head forward or back shifts the cups around my ears and I don't like that. If I look down at my desk, I shouldn't have to worry about a shift of the cans on my head. It's unfortunate. The pads are comfy, but they do take a second to settle in place before the outside material and inside foam set to make a good seal. Normally, this wouldn't be an issue, but because the stability of these cans on my head and their ability to shift, I feel like I'm having to press the cups to my head far too many time to keep the seal. I have a feeling it will get better over time as the pads soften up, but I don't think there can be much done about the clamping force.

 

Maybe it's just something to get use to or maybe I'm just spoiled from the HD 700 fit. In this specific regard, the HD 700 just waxes the floor with the HD 800 as it is a much more comfortable and secure can on my head. The sonics, though? Well, I'll get to that later.

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Hmm. The HD800 never moves around on my head when looking down. Maybe I just have a big head.


Also it took weeks for me to like the HD800 as I didn't like it at first. You really have to find, not only a good amp/DAC match for it, but the hd800 is very picky in the types of music that in shines with. Some music just sounds flat with the hd800. But when you find music that goes well with the hd800 it's magical and something no other headphone that I have heard can reproduce.
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Hmm. The HD800 never moves around on my head when looking down. Maybe I just have a big head.


Also it took weeks for me to like the HD800 as I didn't like it at first. You really have to find, not only a good amp/DAC match for it, but the hd800 is very picky in the types of music that in shines with. Some music just sounds flat with the hd800. But when you find music that goes well with the hd800 it's magical and something no other headphone that I have heard can reproduce.

There is very literally not a thing that isn't impressive with the sonics of the HD 800, but I don't want to be that guy that gushes all over a new can on the first day, so I'm going to give it a little time before I say much. The fit and comfort is a safer topic for now.

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