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post #8566 of 24367

Thanx for info.

I listen almost to Metal music and J.M.Jarre styles only. In FLAC and MP3 320kbs the most.

A few files in HD FLAC.

So I am searching rig with this compatible.

I prefer balanced out...


Edited by NuClear235 - 2/23/14 at 6:21am
post #8567 of 24367

DSD and FLAC are formats - they give no indication of quality...

post #8568 of 24367

I know, I just wrotte it to see that some recordings are in not perfect but loss quality format MP3.
So I need some audio tolerance of audio chain. :-)

post #8569 of 24367
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But I don't recommend the sabre dac with the HD800's unless you know what you're doing.

 

Depends on whether you want to maximize the HD800's strengths (speed, detail, clarity, bass control, dynamics) or minimize it's supposed weaknesses IMO.

 

Obviously as always the quality of the DAC is vital especially with a phone like the HD800's.

post #8570 of 24367
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DSD and FLAC are formats - they give no indication of quality...

So true. If the original recording is poor then no amount of bits is gonna help it! 

post #8571 of 24367
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Depends on whether you want to maximize the HD800's strengths (speed, detail, clarity, bass control, dynamics) or minimize it's supposed weaknesses IMO.

 

Obviously as always the quality of the DAC is vital especially with a phone like the HD800's.

 

Exactly :)

post #8572 of 24367
Im thinking of by the hd800. I want to use it for gaming on ps4 . I use the headzone h1 as my Dolby decoder. What amp would you recommend to pair with headzone and hd800?
post #8573 of 24367
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Originally Posted by NuClear235 View Post
 

So I bought my own HD 800 too. :-)

Here is my graph: ...

 

Now I am playing it with AK100 + DIY headphone amp.

 

I will buy more sophiticated DAC + AMP soon. But what? 

1000 USD max...



YULONG AUDIO SABRE DA8 seem not bad!

 



Congrats!

But I don't recommend the sabre dac with the HD800's unless you know what you're doing.

 

I'm driving my HD800 directly with a exasound e20 DAC and I'm lovin' it.

I think that just the choice of processor doesn't necessarily translate into a certain sound character. Obviously the developer has to create a design that when all pieces are put together sound like the real thing.

post #8574 of 24367
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post
 

 

Depends on whether you want to maximize the HD800's strengths (speed, detail, clarity, bass control, dynamics) or minimize it's supposed weaknesses IMO.

 

Obviously as always the quality of the DAC is vital especially with a phone like the HD800's.

 

I bought HD800 to have the bigest soundstage a instrument separation and some bass (in this order). I tried it and HD800 was the best I heard. Other models missed one of it.

Now when I have 800s connected to DIY headphone amp and then to AK100 sounds for me enough well. It plays poor recorded MP3s not so horrible. (In the worst case I am using HD 570 headphones) 
But can be better. So I want to reconnect headphones to balance and I need better amp. Combined DAC+ balanced AMP is best choice.
Next candidate is Audio-GD NBF-28...

post #8575 of 24367

I don't think it is useful to ask the question "what is the benefit of using HD800 with a balanced amplifier" instead what we should be asking is "what is the benefit of using HD800 with X amplifier which just so happens to be balanced".  IMO if an amplifier is designed to be balanced, then it should be used balanced as that is how it was designed to be used.  Using my balanced amplifier in singled ended results in a more laid back sound, but this doesn't mean that all single ended amplifiers are more laid back than balanced amplifiers.  If there is any possible generalisations about true balanced amplifiers it is that they are intended to have better channel separation and immunity to ground related problems, and possibly more power output (maybe better CM noise rejection?)  I wouldn't buy an amplifier just because it's balanced - I would buy it because it has good performance.

 

DAC and source are definitely important as HD800 will lay them bare, but I'm not sure how much is best to spend on which area.  In my setup there is easily more money spent in the source, cables, transport and DAC than the amplifier (even my equipment rack costs more than my amplifier) but that is more a reflection of my own choices than any indication of best practice in setting up a hifi system.  Any equipment which improves (not just changes) the performance of a hifi setup is worth investing in in the long run.  Once you have an amplifier and headphones which are transparent enough, you can start to evaluate DAC and source performance, and once the DAC and source are up to a certain level it becomes easier to evaluate amplifier performance.  Its the journey etc...

post #8576 of 24367

Finally got me a pair of HD-800's, this has been a long time coming :). Really enjoying them, have been going through all my favorites relistening. Definitely point out the faults in recordings, especially if a recording has some sibilance. I am using them with an EHHA, with pope tubes. Their bright sound signature is something I am not used to, I think partly that should be mended by mental burn in. I have also ordered some wire and connectors, hoping that replacing the stock SPC cable with copper will help, also ordered some telefunken tubes as I was told they are smoother on top. Wish me luck!

post #8577 of 24367
Congrats and good luck biggrin.gif
post #8578 of 24367
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Finally got me a pair of HD-800's, this has been a long time coming :). Really enjoying them, have been going through all my favorites relistening. Definitely point out the faults in recordings, especially if a recording has some sibilance. I am using them with an EHHA, with pope tubes. Their bright sound signature is something I am not used to, I think partly that should be mended by mental burn in. I have also ordered some wire and connectors, hoping that replacing the stock SPC cable with copper will help, also ordered some telefunken tubes as I was told they are smoother on top. Wish me luck!

Congrats. Still having to wait a day or so until I get mine on my head. I'm really hoping this is end-game for me as my wallet just me right now.

post #8579 of 24367
Thanks akhyar and roguegeek. I really don't see any reason to go beyond these, for me they are it. Their super detailed, expansive, yet involving sound is quite addictive. I don't see a reason to get anything else.
post #8580 of 24367
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Thanks akhyar and roguegeek. I really don't see any reason to go beyond these, for me they are it. Their super detailed, expansive, yet involving sound is quite addictive. I don't see a reason to get anything else.

There's always the STAX SR009.
Don't say I've never warned you. biggrin.gif
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