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post #8326 of 25525
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 I prefer tube amps, but I have no problem switching to solid states at all, especially if the M-Stage outperforms WA3/WA6/Lyr with HD800.

 

It does.

 

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Also, Does the HPA-2 offers significant improvement over the original M-Stage?

 

It does not. (unless you are talking about the optional DAC, see my recent review)

 

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And should I just get myself an M-Stage, or save the money and go for a WA2? It would take me some time to save up for WA2, while M-Stage can be bought much sooner. Any insight would be very appreciated, thanks.

 

 

Not sure WA2 would be the best choice. The M-Stage would at least give you time to try other things, especially if you can attend meets.

 

I've read your review, so should I just get myself the HPA-1 and save myself some money? And regarding WA2, I've read numerous report that it pairs exceptionally well with HD800, have never heard one in person though. 

 

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I highly recommend the M-Stage, it's a good match for the HD800 and outstanding for it's price. Very solid build quality under the lid.

It's commonly known as the "lehmann black cube clone". That was the amp the HD800 was designed with and is about 3x the price.

It's a fast detailed amp that isn't overly bright, and that's exactly what the HD800 needs.

I'm not a big fan of low-end tube amps. If you want a tube amp be prepared to spend at least $800-1000.

On a budget I'd take the m-stage and a nos dac in a heartbeat.

 

I am aiming for the WA2, that's why I'm in a very serious doubt. Should I get the M-Stage, or save the money and go for WA2?

 

 

Also, this may sound weird, but I don't like my DM100 very much when paired with WA3. It makes the highs sound harsh compared to the now-gone Modi. So if I go for M-Stage, should I go for HPA-1 without dac, or HPA-2 with the dac option? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post

I highly recommend the M-Stage, it's a good match for the HD800 and outstanding for it's price. Very solid build quality under the lid.

It's commonly known as the "lehmann black cube clone". That was the amp the HD800 was designed with and is about 3x the price.

It's a fast detailed amp that isn't overly bright, and that's exactly what the HD800 needs.

I'm not a big fan of low-end tube amps. If you want a tube amp be prepared to spend at least $800-1000.

On a budget I'd take the m-stage and a nos dac in a heartbeat.

Where can I get one?
post #8328 of 25525
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

The woo WA 22 is balanced and must be for the hd800 to sound great. It is a very good match.

PS I have one listed for sale. With the tube upgrades.

Al

 



Very smooth... smily_headphones1.gif
post #8329 of 25525
Thanks I feel so ignored. LOL.

All,joking. A really good amp. But I do think the hdvd600. Is more revealing. It's a shame no one is considering an amp that was made for the headphones.

Al
post #8330 of 25525
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Thanks I feel so ignored. LOL.

All,joking. A really good amp. But I do think the hdvd600. Is more revealing. It's a shame no one is considering an amp that was made for the headphones.

Al

 

Its way more expensive than the other objects in considerations mate, I wish I could try it.

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Also, sorry for the series of question, but would it make a significant difference if I use the M-Stage to preamp my WA3? (in case if I don't like it).

post #8332 of 25525
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Thanks I feel so ignored. LOL.

All,joking. A really good amp. But I do think the hdvd600. Is more revealing. It's a shame no one is considering an amp that was made for the headphones.

Al
I'm just starting out to find a better amp for hd800, so i'd like to start from down and move up the ladder slowly. This way I can appreciate the improvements along the way and gain some knowledge smily_headphones1.gif
post #8333 of 25525
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post

I've read your review, so should I just get myself the HPA-1 and save myself some money? And regarding WA2, I've read numerous report that it pairs exceptionally well with HD800, have never heard one in person though. 


I am aiming for the WA2, that's why I'm in a very serious doubt. Should I get the M-Stage, or save the money and go for WA2?


Also, this may sound weird, but I don't like my DM100 very much when paired with WA3. It makes the highs sound harsh compared to the now-gone Modi. So if I go for M-Stage, should I go for HPA-1 without dac, or HPA-2 with the dac option? Thanks.
If you go M-Stage I would go HPA-2 with the DAC. I listened using just the HPA-2 as DAC and amp and it sounded quite nice with HD800. As my review said it isn't perfect, but it is crazy performance for the extra $40 it costs. If I had to do it all over again with the knowledge I have now, I would go HPA-2 as both DAC and amp til I had money for GS-X and X-Sabre. I would skip the WA6 the Mjolnir and the BHA-1 and the Gungnir. Hindsight is 20-20 though.
post #8334 of 25525
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If you go M-Stage I would go HPA-2 with the DAC. I listened using just the HPA-2 as DAC and amp and it sounded quite nice with HD800. As my review said it isn't perfect, but it is crazy performance for the extra $40 it costs. If I had to do it all over again with the knowledge I have now, I would go HPA-2 as both DAC and amp til I had money for GS-X and X-Sabre. I would skip the WA6 the Mjolnir and the BHA-1 and the Gungnir. Hindsight is 20-20 though.

I went for HPA-2 w/DAC after reading your review. On the other hand i'm trying find information on nos dac but not many details about them. I think i'll try hpa-2 dac first and decide later.

post #8335 of 25525
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Thanks I feel so ignored. LOL.

All,joking. A really good amp. But I do think the hdvd600. Is more revealing. It's a shame no one is considering an amp that was made for the headphones.

Al
So you like HDVA600/HDVD800 over WA22? I recently purchased the Questyle CMA800R which is also designed specifically for the HD800 in mind. It's $1500 normal price, but I got it at $1000. I only bought one so I plan to use it single ended, but getting two would allow you to run the HD800 balanced, as the amp allows you to run them as monoblocks when you have two. From a price standpoint it would be comparable to the WA22 and HDVD800 when running it balanced with two, more so if you're comparing MSRP ($3000). Of course price alone doesn't determine quality. I'm excited to see how it sounds. I like how it allows you to buy just "half" the amp for a more affordable price if you're just looking to run SE, and upgrade later to balanced if you want.
post #8336 of 25525
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


If you go M-Stage I would go HPA-2 with the DAC. I listened using just the HPA-2 as DAC and amp and it sounded quite nice with HD800. As my review said it isn't perfect, but it is crazy performance for the extra $40 it costs. If I had to do it all over again with the knowledge I have now, I would go HPA-2 as both DAC and amp til I had money for GS-X and X-Sabre. I would skip the WA6 the Mjolnir and the BHA-1 and the Gungnir. Hindsight is 20-20 though.

 

The problem is, I have to pay tax to import anything that cost more than $300. So for me the dac for the HPA-2 costs $150 instead of $40...

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The amp you describe sounds really good as you can
Grow into it.

The wa 22 is really good but being tubes
It warms things up a little
But if you want all the details the headphone
Has to offer you need a SS amp. And there's is off the hook
In details. If you want all the headphone has
To offer it gives it. Now I have some speaker amps
That I use for the HE6. One is a krell KAV 400 xi
And the other is Aragon 8008 BB.
Well they are really good with both. And the Aragon
Is a little more foward.
Al
post #8338 of 25525
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The problem is, I have to pay tax to import anything that cost more than $300. So for me the dac for the HPA-2 costs $150 instead of $40...
Try buying it from the Asian market, you might get it cheaper there.
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What about this? Any thoughts on this? Thanks.

 

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Also, sorry for the series of question, but would it make a significant difference if I use the M-Stage to preamp my WA3? (in case if I don't like it).

post #8340 of 25525
:)Iam happy to say I have a brand new HD800 own the way, moving from HD700 to the HD800 I should have them early next week am very exited.
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