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post #8086 of 25155
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Hahahaha, of course not! Everyone on head-fi knows, the real solution is cables! Use the right 99.999999999999999% pure ultra-conducive unobtanium cables and you can make your Portapros morph into your own personal string quartet if you wanted. ;)

Oh, and don't forget to go balanced! :p

 

:biggrin:

 

But one serious question. Is there really an audible difference between balanced and unbalanced by using the same amp like Bryston BHA-1 ?

post #8087 of 25155
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Thank you for the morning Laugh :beerchug: . 

:beerchug:

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But one serious question. Is there really an audible difference between balanced and unbalanced by using the same amp like Bryston BHA-1 ?


Honestly, yes. For me, switching from unbalanced to balanced and back has a noticeable difference. To roughly quantify, I'd say roughly similar to the amount of change noticeable from a tube change. Much more so than say switching between a copper and a silver (but otherwise identical) cable, which to me sounds so very very slightly different, that I'm about 95% sure that it's placebo.


Edited by scolaiw - 2/12/14 at 12:49am
post #8088 of 25155
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Originally Posted by scolaiw View Post
 

:beerchug:


Honestly, yes. For me, switching from unbalanced to balanced and back has a noticeable difference. To roughly quantify, I'd say roughly similar to the amount of change noticeable from a tube change. Much more so than say switching between a copper and a silver (but otherwise identical) cable, which to me sounds so very very slightly different, that I'm about 95% sure that it's placebo.

 

Are you talking about unbalanced and balanced on the same amp?

post #8089 of 25155
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Are you talking about unbalanced and balanced on the same amp?


Yes it was on the LAu. I was using the Abyss, which comes with a very well made balanced cable and unbalanced adapter as stock and I definitely noticed a difference. Having said that, I believe the single ended output is converted into the balanced circuitry internally using a chip which (in theory) could potentially be what's causing the difference. I highly doubt that the Abyss is THAT revealing, or that the chip used was THAT terrible. 

post #8090 of 25155
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Originally Posted by scolaiw View Post
 

:beerchug:


Honestly, yes. For me, switching from unbalanced to balanced and back has a noticeable difference. To roughly quantify, I'd say roughly similar to the amount of change noticeable from a tube change. Much more so than say switching between a copper and a silver (but otherwise identical) cable, which to me sounds so very very slightly different, that I'm about 95% sure that it's placebo.

 

Thanks !

And which one sounds better for you ?

post #8091 of 25155
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Originally Posted by TheDuke990 View Post

 

Thanks !

And which one sounds better for you ?

 

Balanced, for sure. :D 

post #8092 of 25155
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Originally Posted by scolaiw View Post
 

 

Balanced, for sure. :D 

 

 

The most expensive , the better .. always!  :D

post #8093 of 25155
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Originally Posted by Sorrodje View Post

 

The most expensive , the better .. always!  :D


Spot on! You wouldn't want to have it any other way. ;)

Furthermore, I should add that when I made the comparison, I wasn't employing any degree of volume matching and balanced outputs are generally higher gain than single ended outputs. Thus it goes without saying that perhaps I was just listening to a louder version of the same thing and as is human nature, just preferred the louder one. 


Edited by scolaiw - 2/12/14 at 1:25am
post #8094 of 25155

ABX and egalized volumes are the only way to have an objective answer. besides that, welcome in a subjective world, full of very enjoyable autobias. 

 

All what matters in fine is pleasure. the only rational way of spending money :beerchug:  

post #8095 of 25155
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The most expensive , the better .. always!  :D

 

I have my own theory on all this:

 

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LOL !  Do you permit a free use of this pic ? 


Edited by Sorrodje - 2/12/14 at 3:13am
post #8097 of 25155
My take on this is cables to matter but not much. The same for balanced in most cases there is no audible sound quality increase .. Given the increase in going from SE TO BAL is about 4 times the power. So unless you used a cal mic it's all subjective to louder is better. Now if the headphone is say a power hungry he6 then it would yield and increase in SQ due to the fact the he 6 would get an increase in power and sound better if underwhelmed before. We all want to hear where our money went and I too have a large collection of balanced cables all made of pure silver one draw bla bla bla.
I got all my cables from Ted Allen headphone lounge. Anyway they look cool though. But EQ changes everything and it is a must to play with. But I do understand the stigma of trying it. And it is why I have gone around to posting about it.
I guess I know how a preacher must feel as most just tell NO . Lol

Al
post #8098 of 25155

Question on Head fi:

 

My HD 800 is a bit bright sounding on my Woo WA6 , I am using xxx tubes ? Anyone face this problem ?

 

Perfectly Respectable reply :

 

Why don't you roll zzz tube , it will make the sound warmer .

 

 

Non- Respectable reply :

 

Why don't you try an EQ cut of -2 db at 6 Khz.

 

:biggrin:

 

Just for info , I try one or both & see which works better for me ;) & yes I do know that  tube rolling is not just simple EQ adjustment. If it was, I wouldn't have bought the 20-25 odd tubes that I own but sometimes the simplest solution is the best one. IMHO.

 

I mentioned HD 800 in my post, so I guess this isn't off topic:p 


Edited by punit - 2/12/14 at 4:28am
post #8099 of 25155
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LOL !  Do you permit a free use of this pic ? 


Knock yourself out :D

post #8100 of 25155
Tube rolling I feel
Is not enough instead of trying different tubes use the EQ
And 3 db might not be enough.
As for tubes you want fast bright tubes that it looks like you
Have them. If you tube roll you might end up
With slower tubes and loose definition

I would try EQ but just the 6 k might not be the only point to try 8 or 10 k
As well. Keep in mind people point to the 6 k bump as the point to go to
But that really is upper mids. Treble hurts our ears more but also gets us the staging
And air around the music. As for the amount
I would try 6 db and when it helps reg the correct freq
Then back it down from there
Al
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