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post #8026 of 24291
Forgot to post this here earlier. Just finished a comparison of the older M-Stage HPA-1 and the new M-Stage HPA-2 both with USB DACs.

For the time being my recommendation for anyone starting out with HD800 in mind or someone needing an inexpensive amp/DAC while playing musical chairs with high end gear is the M-Stage HPA-2. Amazing value combination with the HD800. If I had to, I could live with it and enjoy it. It's that good.

http://www.head-fi.org/products/matrix-m-stage-hpa-2-w-usb-dac/reviews/10470
post #8027 of 24291
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Originally Posted by icebear View Post
 


Even if the Abyss was better and would cost "only the same" as the HD800, I wouldn't want to switch.

Simple reason: weight.

 

Even before sound quality, comfort is a critical "must have".

At around 1.5 lb or 660grs (w/o cable) the Abyss is so heavy, I wouldn't be able to comfortably listen to them for an hour. That's a no go in my book. I am not sacrificing comfort over the last bit of SQ in return for a headache or muscle pain.

 

Absolutely, comfort has become just as big a factor for me as sound quality.

 

I often get email asking about the HE-500 and HD650 for some reason, probably because my HD650 review is up front and center and a lot of people are debating these two headphones.

 

I always tell them the same thing; "yes, the HE-500 actually sounds slightly better. It's like the HD-650 on steroids. You get an amazing amount of sound quality for your money. Yes having owned both I would still pick the HD-650 simply because it's that much more comfortable, that much lighter and that much better built".

 

(If Hifiman wants a bigger slice of the market this is were they need to improve IMHO. Their sound quality is already excellent for the money.)

 

I use my headphones a lot. Sometimes I work from home and listen to music in the background, sometimes I watch movies with them, sometimes I game with them. The HD800's are perfect for all this, they are comfortable enough to wear all day and not think about them being there.


Edited by TwoEars - 2/9/14 at 10:10pm
post #8028 of 24291
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post
 

Exquisite car DG, congratulations!

 

Is that the CLA?

 

The HD800 is a beast you know (just to stay on topic :p)

 

yes it is! Its the new 2014 CLA 250. 

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Originally Posted by akhyar View Post

Nice car DG.
Congrats!

So what sound system you using on your Benz? biggrin.gif

 

the Harman Kardon one included in the premium package. its actually pretty good, alot of people say it lacks bass but with no EQ, its just right for me. alot better sounding than the bose on my coworkers Maxima. 

 

no plans for an aftermarket system as of now, the one the benz has right now is pretty decent overall. 

 

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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

Haha...no wonder you had to sell most of your headphones.

 

Do you think you will buy any of those models after you recuperate from the car expense?

 

yeah i think i will, but i'll also wait and see what new headphones are coming out. interested in the new he-560 thats supposed to come out soon, maybe an easier to drive he-6. i miss my headphones but also haven't used them as much since i got a job and maybe its better i only stick with a few since i don't have a ton of time to listen to music these days.

post #8029 of 24291
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

the Harman Kardon one included in the premium package. its actually pretty good, alot of people say it lacks bass but with no EQ, its just right for me. alot better sounding than the bose on my coworkers Maxima. 

 

I have a Bose system on my Alfa 159. Simply put, I rarely listen to my music with it, just radio (my music sounds very 'wrong' with it).

post #8030 of 24291
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

the Harman Kardon one included in the premium package. its actually pretty good, alot of people say it lacks bass but with no EQ, its just right for me. alot better sounding than the bose on my coworkers Maxima. 


I also have the Hardon option in my 2013 BMW X1. I have to say, it definitely sounds better at medium to loud volumes. Although I do miss the detail and airiness of the HD 800s on the go, overall it is still very fun and enjoyable on my drive to work and back. Especially with a sub-woofer under both front seats, you can actually "feel the music" like you never can with even the best headphones. :p

And I agree, it's perfect for me without EQ, but the fact that you can still EQ is always a bonus. 

post #8031 of 24291
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post
 

 

I have a Bose system on my Alfa 159. Simply put, I rarely listen to my music with it, just radio (my music sounds very 'wrong' with it).

 

i don't know whats wrong with the bose but it doesn't sound good. at lower volumes its ok but seems like it lacks clarity and at louder volumes its just way too bassy and muddy and then the mids/treble start to distort and sound bad. interesting cause at least with their headphones they don't distort the same way, they just have loose bass but other than that they actually sound ok.

 

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I also have the Hardon option in my 2013 BMW X1. I have to say, it definitely sounds better at medium to loud volumes. Although I do miss the detail and airiness of the HD 800s on the go, overall it is still very fun and enjoyable on my drive to work and back. Especially with a sub-woofer under both front seats, you can actually "feel the music" like you never can with even the best headphones. :p

And I agree, it's perfect for me without EQ, but the fact that you can still EQ is always a bonus. 

 

yeah if i EQ it has alot more bass but for most things, flat sound great, with just enough bass and fun to listen to when i'm driving. it definitely isn't HD 800 sounding though, slightly more consumer-ish sounding, perhaps a more neutral version of a Fostex-TH900 with not as much treble and obviously not as good. 

:beerchug:

 

oooh and i didn't know the BMW used harman, i thought they used bang & olufsen. 

btw, if the CLA class deal fell through, I would of probably gone for a 3 series beamer (The GLK class or the X1 series are nice as well but cost more)


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 2/10/14 at 3:07am
post #8032 of 24291
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

 

You kept the HE-6 over the HD800 and LCDs?:eek:

post #8033 of 24291
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

oooh and i didn't know the BMW used harman, i thought they used bang & olufsen. 

btw, if the CLA class deal fell through, I would of probably gone for a 3 series beamer (The GLK class or the X1 series are nice as well but cost more)

 

We're way off topic here, but I also have a HK system on my 5 series. B&O is offered as an upgrade and is noticeably better, but a car is by no means a concert hall. I prefer to spend the money on my home gear.

 

Enjoy the CLA - it's an awesome car!

post #8034 of 24291
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

 

yes it is! Its the new 2014 CLA 250. 

 

the Harman Kardon one included in the premium package. its actually pretty good, alot of people say it lacks bass but with no EQ, its just right for me. alot better sounding than the bose on my coworkers Maxima. 

 

no plans for an aftermarket system as of now, the one the benz has right now is pretty decent overall. 

 

 

yeah i think i will, but i'll also wait and see what new headphones are coming out. interested in the new he-560 thats supposed to come out soon, maybe an easier to drive he-6. i miss my headphones but also haven't used them as much since i got a job and maybe its better i only stick with a few since i don't have a ton of time to listen to music these days.

The he 560 is absolutely horrible looking. They seriously need to change that headband. 

post #8035 of 24291
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

yeah if i EQ it has alot more bass but for most things, flat sound great, with just enough bass and fun to listen to when i'm driving. it definitely isn't HD 800 sounding though, slightly more consumer-ish sounding, perhaps a more neutral version of a Fostex-TH900 with not as much treble and obviously not as good. 

:beerchug:

 

oooh and i didn't know the BMW used harman, i thought they used bang & olufsen. 

btw, if the CLA class deal fell through, I would of probably gone for a 3 series beamer (The GLK class or the X1 series are nice as well but cost more)


Totally agree. To be honest, whilst definitely a consumer-ish sound, it's quite on the neutral side. Good to see that the Hardon engineers aren't being complete pushovers. Haven't heard the TH900 (yet ;)) but I would say maybe a slightly bassier JH-13 (not yet JH-16) and obviously not as good. 

Now that you bring it up though, BMW have been using Harman for years. My parents had it in their 3 series way back in '99. I wasn't even aware that they were offering B&O. 

Regardless, enjoy the new car and savour the new car smell whilst you still can! 

:beerchug: 

post #8036 of 24291

Anyone here heard the WA5 and DNA stratus with HD800? 

post #8037 of 24291
Enjoy the car. It looks really nice.
Al
post #8038 of 24291
Yes I have them. It's fine with tube upgrades
But the wa22 is a bit better.
The hd800 just ended a little EQ
To be sweet.
Al
post #8039 of 24291

Congrats dubstep girl, the CLA is a pretty car for sure. I'm guessing the Director wasn't at work when you snapped that picture? :biggrin:

 

P.S. For those that care, BMW enthusiasts refer to the cars as "Bimmers" and the motorcycles as "Beemers."

post #8040 of 24291
So what is my super charged cooper works MINICOOPER
Called.

Al
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