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Originally Posted by BrunoS72 View Post

My HD-800 package didn't include a frequency response chart with serial number and signature as those shown on this thread. Was it supposed to be in the box with the manual? I bought the headphones new last year from B&H.
 

 

No there is a page in the manual on how to get yours.  Though I do think they should have just included it but then people might start cherry picking their HD800 like some of us did for Audeze ;)

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Caveat for anyone thinking of running a speaker amp... has to be wired for 4 wire, no shared ground.

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Caveat for anyone thinking of running a speaker amp... has to be wired for 4 wire, no shared ground.

in other words, do not get an adapter that is 1/4 jack female with wires going to your amp. That will kill your amp. You need to recable your headphone with balanced cord -- 4 pin XLR (male) and then acquire 4 pin XLR female/speaker adapter. 

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Originally Posted by third_eye View Post

I auditioned the Stratus and the Sonnett 2 at the same time. The Stratus has way more power, soundstage, slam, presence and just sounds like the BIGGER amp....for me the difference was not subtle. That's not taking away anything from the Sonnett 2...it's a fine amp. But the Stratus is in a different league. 

 

Thanks for the info. It's on my list but not near the affordable part yet.

Im probably gonna have to get it after the WA7 since its more in my price range at the moment :/

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Originally Posted by JWahl View Post

Congrats.  I remember when you were talking about the HD-700 compared to the K702 65th.  I certainly have no regrets skipping the HD700 and no regrets selling the K702 65th to help fund my HD800 purchase.  

 

Unless you have some really nice tubes on the Lyr, I have to recommend trying the HD800 on something more transparent.  When I had the Lyr, I found it to even bottleneck the transparency of the R1 LCD-2.  I never tried it with any other tubes than what Schiit sells though.

 

I have been using it with Brimar CV2492 and Telefunken 6922 tubes, it has been great on the transparency end.   I'm keeping the Lyr for now, but I have my eye on something else in the next few months.  I may even go to a balanced setup. 

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Originally Posted by Mambosenior View Post

Chodi,

 

The LF339 IS quite wonderful with the 800. Since I also enjoy my HE 5-LE with the Threshold amp, I ordered a new 800 cable with 4-pin stereo XLR (nothing fancy: Canare wire, 10ft) to try with a speaker amp (the "curiosity" bug when one has too much time on their hands).

 

Well, tonight I took a bit of a dive (could have been a $1400+ splat) off the cliff by trying the 800 with the Threshold (a low-brow combo of Power Mac-->Audio-gd NFB-11.32 (variable out)-->amp). Listening (classical, jazz) only for a half-hour, I am VERY impressed by the combination. First, there's no noise issues, the amp is dead-silent. I can run the gain on the Audio-gd to about 9 with the classical and between 8-9 with most jazz. The depth and width of stage in the symphonic repertory (usual ball-busters like Rite of Spring, Plants, as well as Arnold and Prokofiev symphonies) have spectacular proportions. It feels like "I am in the hall." Instrumental separation and timbres are superb. The bass in Patricia Barber's new "Smash" album (1st track) has a cleanliness, depth and definition that I haven't experience previously, and her infinite vocal inflections are all there. Again, it's too early in this trial for me to make pronouncements and I have to go back to the LF339 to gain some perspective as to the differences. I'll start throwing some better front end gear at the Threshold now that I know I am not blowing it up ot frying the 800s.

 

So, for whatever it's worth, there are my two rusty cents.
 

I don't have the HD800 yet (got side tracked with Stax) but your experience sounds very similar to mine when I used my T1's to go from my LaFigaro to a pretty good solid state Audio gd  amp. After prolonged use I came to the conclusion that the tubes were more musical overall with slightly less detail and slam in the bass. I really think that is overall the difference between any two decent tube and ss amps. In the end I stayed with the tubes. I read a comment somewhere that the 800's don't pair well with the LaFigaro so that is what prompted my question. The Lafigaro sure does a great job with my T1's.

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Caveat for anyone thinking of running a speaker amp... has to be wired for 4 wire, no shared ground.

 

Solude:

My HD-800s don't arrive for another week or so, but I have been thinking a lot of trying them with the speaker taps of my BAT VK-60. I believe each channel employs a balanced-bridge output configuration (2 6C33C-B power triodes in each channel). Can you advise me of any special precautions that need to be taken with such an output? Is it only as stated earlier--no shared grounds, or is there more? (Anyone else who has knowledge, feel free to chime in.)

 

Thanks. 

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How does one use speaker taps with the HD800s anyway? I am such a noob. What kinds of amps would you look for other than super low power configurations?
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Maxvla, thanks for the link. I strongly recommend it to all who have been interested in speaker amps for the 800. There's been too much misinformation on the process and it kept me away from trying it for far too long.

 

If the situation continues like the past few days of listening, I have bought my last headphone amp. The 800 on the Threshold is (insert your most outrageously complimentary/flowery/audiophiliacunous adjective)! I can't believe this thing is a "headphone!" I've owned the 800 for 3 years (#032xx0  and never suspected that it was capable of what I am hearing presently. I have thrown everything I usually listen to--classical symphonic/chamber, opera, rock, jazz, vocals--at it. The HE-5LE was my previous go-to for rock and jazz but it simply doesn't measure up with the 800 even in these genres.

 

I've been using it straight out of the speaker taps without resistors. Today, I'll place 10ohm/10watt resistors in parallel and sample the results, this after reading the link above. Those who have experienced (many, it seems) a lack of bass, bright treble and recessed mids with the 800 should try it with a quality speaker amp. It has been interesting to read that the HE-6 was also claimed to suffer from similar ills until paired with a speaker amp of sufficient power. Advice I followed with the 5LE and remain extremely pleased. Well, here on the couch, the same goes for the 800.

 

I have no idea why a 300ohm headphone would need a 100watt speaker amp to make it spectacular. Some members here have used much-lower wattage speaker amps and gotten good results. For the science part of this mystery, I'll leave it to those here better versed in electronics. It seems though that the quality of the amp may have a lot to do with it, as is the case with reference speakers.

 

Thanks for your patience.


Edited by Mambosenior - 3/11/13 at 10:48am
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Mambosenior:

 

What were some of the previous headphone amps you used with the HD 800? Any direct comparisons you can give with the better ones?

 

-Daniel

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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

Mambosenior:

 

What were some of the previous headphone amps you used with the HD 800? Any direct comparisons you can give with the better ones?

 

-Daniel

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post #809 of 12439
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Originally Posted by Mambosenior View Post

Maxvla, thanks for the link. I strongly recommend it to all who have been interested in speaker amps for the 800. There's been too much misinformation on the process and it kept me away from trying it for far too long.

If the situation continues like the past few days of listening, I have bought my last headphone amp. The 800 on the Threshold is (insert your most outrageously complimentary/flowery/audiophiliacunous adjective)! I can't believe this thing is a "headphone!" I've owned the 800 for 3 years (#032xx0  and never suspected that it was capable of what I am hearing presently. I have thrown everything I usually listen to--classical symphonic/chamber, opera, rock, jazz, vocals--at it. The HE-5LE was my previous go-to for rock and jazz but it simply doesn't measure up with the 800 even in these genres.



 



I've been using it straight out of the speaker taps without resistors. Today, I'll place 10ohm/10watt resistors in parallel and sample the results, this after reading the link above. Those who have experienced (many, it seems) a lack of bass, bright treble and recessed mids with the 800 should try it with a quality speaker amp. It has been interesting to read that the HE-6 was also claimed to suffer from similar ills until paired with a speaker amp of sufficient power. Advice I followed with the 5LE and remain extremely pleased. Well, here on the couch, the same goes for the 800.



 



I have no idea why a 300ohm headphone would need a 100watt speaker amp to make it spectacular. Some members here have used much-lower wattage speaker amps and gotten good results. For the science part of this mystery, I'll leave it to those here better versed in electronics. It seems though that the quality of the amp may have a lot to do with it, as is the case with reference speakers.



 



Thanks for your patience.



How does your volume control behave?
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