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post #7606 of 25153
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post

I think my decision of upgrading my DAC from Modi to Cambridge DM100 kinda ruined the Synergy of my HD800-WA3 pairing... It gets kinda sibilant now, could be better after burn-in but I'm skeptical about it.

If you are contemplating a new direction, you might give bottlehead amps some consideration. I far prefer(ed) my crack (with my hd650's and all the more so with my hd800s) to my prior woo 3. (And for reference, I lived with both under the same roof for over a year, generally running Amperex pq 7308s and a 5998 in my woo.) With the ccs boards (speedball) and film caps in place, the crack is a more sophisticated design than a wa3 or wa2. To my ears, it sounds noticeably faster, more detailed and more dynamic (all in all, more involving and exciting) than the woos.

Stepping up to a higher rung, I recently completed my mainline, which is just brilliant with hd800s. While retaining what I think of as Bottlehead's house sound, the mainline has the sort of clean transients, natural timbre, tight impactful bass and accurate but never strident trebles that set great tube amps apart from those that are just good. Topology is very similar to an ecp l-2 (highly regulated, ccs, single gain stage, 6c45pi driven, parafeed tube amp with high quality custom output transformers). Sadly, despite rave reviews (eg innerfidelity), the l-2 isn't presently being produced, but if you are willing to undertake the build, or to engage a builder, mainline is an awesome option.
post #7607 of 25153
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If you are contemplating a new direction, you might give bottlehead amps some consideration. I far prefer(ed) my crack (with my hd650's and all the more so with my hd800s) to my prior woo 3. (And for reference, I lived with both under the same roof for over a year, generally running Amperex pq 7308s and a 5998 in my woo.) With the ccs boards (speedball) and film caps in place, the crack is a more sophisticated design than a wa3 or wa2. To my ears, it sounds noticeably faster, more detailed and more dynamic (all in all, more involving and exciting) than the woos.

Stepping up to a higher rung, I recently completed my mainline, which is just brilliant with hd800s. While retaining what I think of as Bottlehead's house sound, the mainline has the sort of clean transients, natural timbre, tight impactful bass and accurate but never strident trebles that set great tube amps apart from those that are just good. Topology is very similar to an ecp l-2 (highly regulated, ccs, single gain stage, 6c45pi driven, parafeed tube amp with high quality custom output transformers). Sadly, despite rave reviews (eg innerfidelity), the l-2 isn't presently being produced, but if you are willing to undertake the build, or to engage a builder, mainline is an awesome option.

 

I've listened to the Crack (non-speedball) HD800 combo, and I have to admit it was something. Might have to listen to the WA2 as well before deciding what my goal setup would be.

 

 

 

By the way, does anyone know how would direct sunlight exposure affect HD800's paint? I heard numerous people having problems with its paint, would this factor contribute to the problem?

post #7608 of 25153

I noticed something recently on my HD800. I found certain electric guitars came off distorted. Of course electric guitars are recorded that way, but I'm never noticed the distortion at such a fine detail before. At first, I thought maybe my new chain was adding distortion since they were tube amps, but when switching to solid state, I found while it was not as apparent, now that I know to look for it at certain parts of the song, I could hear it as well. I'm going to rule that under my chain opening up the HD800 to a new level of detail that you can hear finer distortions of electric guitars from the recording. :D Granted this makes it a bit more unforgiving. Now a few days ago when my Quickie's batteries were dying, and the bass became a distorted mess, that was nasty. But since this distortion only affects electric guitars, I think it's reproducing the sound as intended.

post #7609 of 25153

I would like to chime in about my experience with HD800. I ordered them brand new from an authorized dealer a couple of weeks ago and when I got them I contemplated about sending the package back without even giving the headphones a try after reading such things about them as that they are too bright, sibilant, have harsh treble to which I'm very sensitive, very bass light, thin sounding and boring. As I was getting ready to drop the package off at the post office, I heard the voice in my head saying just give them a try. Therefore, I did.

 

These are my first impressions. Where is the sibilance and harsh treble everyone is talking about? I find the treble to be silky smooth with no hint of sibilance. In comparisons, HD650 has harsh treble. The bass is very satisfying and by no means I will call HD800 bass light. ATH-AD900x and its siblings are bass light in my opinion. HD800 bass may not have the impact of LCD2 or the sub bass of D7000 but the bass is there when it's called for and definitely a huge improvement over HD600 bass. The only time I found them thin sounding was on poorly mastered records from the 80's. The whole time I was listening to HD800, I kept on tapping my toes because the sound signature was extremely engaging to my ears. One last thing which is a biggie for me. I experienced zero listening fatigue after 2 hours of non stop listening at moderate volume.

 

To summarize my experience with HD800 is that they made me believe in God and I wish I bought them sooner.

post #7610 of 25153
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Originally Posted by musicisthekey View Post
 

I would like to chime in about my experience with HD800. I ordered them brand new from an authorized dealer a couple of weeks ago and when I got them I contemplated about sending the package back without even giving the headphones a try after reading such things about them as that they are too bright, sibilant, have harsh treble to which I'm very sensitive, very bass light, thin sounding and boring. As I was getting ready to drop the package off at the post office, I heard the voice in my head saying just give them a try. Therefore, I did.

 

These are my first impressions. Where is the sibilance and harsh treble everyone is talking about? I find the treble to be silky smooth with no hint of sibilance. In comparisons, HD650 has harsh treble. The bass is very satisfying and by no means I will call HD800 bass light. ATH-AD900x and its siblings are bass light in my opinion. HD800 bass may not have the impact of LCD2 or the sub bass of D7000 but the bass is there when it's called for and definitely a huge improvement over HD600 bass. The only time I found them thin sounding was on poorly mastered records from the 80's. The whole time I was listening to HD800, I kept on tapping my toes because the sound signature was extremely engaging to my ears. One last thing which is a biggie for me. I experienced zero listening fatigue after 2 hours of non stop listening at moderate volume.

 

To summarize my experience with HD800 is that they made me believe in God and I wish I bought them sooner.

 

Yeah, the HD800s are awesome but honestly, the HD650s don't have harsh trebles.  ;)

post #7611 of 25153
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Originally Posted by musicisthekey View Post
 

I would like to chime in about my experience with HD800. I ordered them brand new from an authorized dealer a couple of weeks ago and when I got them I contemplated about sending the package back without even giving the headphones a try after reading such things about them as that they are too bright, sibilant, have harsh treble to which I'm very sensitive, very bass light, thin sounding and boring. As I was getting ready to drop the package off at the post office, I heard the voice in my head saying just give them a try. Therefore, I did.

 

These are my first impressions. Where is the sibilance and harsh treble everyone is talking about? I find the treble to be silky smooth with no hint of sibilance. In comparisons, HD650 has harsh treble. The bass is very satisfying and by no means I will call HD800 bass light. ATH-AD900x and its siblings are bass light in my opinion. HD800 bass may not have the impact of LCD2 or the sub bass of D7000 but the bass is there when it's called for and definitely a huge improvement over HD600 bass. The only time I found them thin sounding was on poorly mastered records from the 80's. The whole time I was listening to HD800, I kept on tapping my toes because the sound signature was extremely engaging to my ears. One last thing which is a biggie for me. I experienced zero listening fatigue after 2 hours of non stop listening at moderate volume.

 

To summarize my experience with HD800 is that they made me believe in God and I wish I bought them sooner.

 

People perceive SQ differently I guess, some said that they can't listen to the HD800 for more than 15 minutes while yesterday I've just listened to them for 10 straight hours..

post #7612 of 25153
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

Yeah, the HD800s are awesome but honestly, the HD650s don't have harsh trebles.  ;)


You are right. It's not harsh. It can be grainy.

post #7613 of 25153

Nice little story. Glad you like them and welcome to the club!

Your experience with the HD800 pretty much mirrors mine to the T.  Love the no fatigue part.. first for me in the HP world. I have a ton of 80s music and since that era was my prime and I DJ'd during the 80s and 90s, I really love the music. The HD800 is not perfect for that so my solution will be to find a complementary set of headphones which would work for 80s and poorly recorded material.  

 

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Originally Posted by musicisthekey View Post
 

I would like to chime in about my experience with HD800....

 

The only time I found them thin sounding was on poorly mastered records from the 80's. The whole time I was listening to HD800, I kept on tapping my toes because the sound signature was extremely engaging to my ears. One last thing which is a biggie for me. I experienced zero listening fatigue after 2 hours of non stop listening at moderate volume.

 

To summarize my experience with HD800 is that they made me believe in God and I wish I bought them sooner.

post #7614 of 25153
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post

Yeah, the HD800s are awesome but honestly, the HD650s don't have harsh trebles.  wink.gif

No worries, the 650 doesn't have any treble.
8^)
post #7615 of 25153
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Originally Posted by Mambosenior View Post


No worries, the 650 doesn't have any treble.
8^)

 

Agreed .... when I'm looking to turn down the brightness, I won't dial down below my HE-500s

post #7616 of 25153
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post
 

 

Yeah, the HD800s are awesome but honestly, the HD650s don't have harsh trebles.  ;)


Not Harsh ! :eek: They don't have any treble :tongue_smile: The first time I put them on, I was like " who turned the lights out". So Dark. :ph34r: 


Edited by punit - 1/21/14 at 10:00pm
post #7617 of 25153
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Not Harsh ! :eek:They don't have any treble :tongue_smile: The first time I put them on, I was like " who turned the lights out". So Dark. :ph34r: 

 

I think someone already told that :rolleyes::p

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No worries, the 650 doesn't have any treble.
8^)
post #7618 of 25153
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Originally Posted by Mambosenior View Post


No worries, the 650 doesn't have any treble.
8^)


Well - to Mambosenior and all you nay-sayers... I must tell you that the HD650s just blew my left ear off with the force of the first piccolo entry in Shostakovich's First Symphony (Barshai)!!! There is plenty of treble when it's there and when it's needed. IMHO and in the humble opinion of my set-up: Oppo103, Audiolab M-DAC, Kimber Kable Silver Streak, Schiit Lyr with Tungsram tubes on this occasion, Russ Andrews HD650 replacement cable. YMMV, of course.


Edited by Amictus - 1/22/14 at 11:43am
post #7619 of 25153
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Well - to Mambosenior and all you nay-sayers... I must tell you that the HD650s just blew my left ear off with the force of the first piccolo entry in Shostakovich's First Symphony (Barshai)!!! There is plenty of treble when it's there and when it's needed. IMHO and in the humble opinion of my set-up: Oppo103, Audiolab M-DAC, Kimber Kable Silver Streak, Schiit Lyr with Tungram tubes on this occasion, Russ Andrews HD650 replacement cable. YMMV, of course.

 

Yes, psycho-acoustics are a marvelous thing.  If the HD650 were the only headphones on earth, I would gladly and easily be able to adapt to them.  Fortunately there are many more outstanding offerings able to offer more energy ... "up there".

post #7620 of 25153
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post
 

 

Yes, psycho-acoustics are a marvelous thing.  If the HD650 were the only headphones on earth, I would gladly and easily be able to adapt to them.  Fortunately there are many more outstanding offerings able to offer more energy ... "up there".


Yes. Me and the HD800s. It's only a matter of time and money. I'm so looking forward to being a full member of this excellent thread. :tongue_smile:

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