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post #7336 of 15308
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Originally Posted by Speedy Pedro View Post
 

Really? I have.

 

In this case, the "shocking" label applied in the following context: (1) the price (2) and that it was specifically designed with the HD 800 in mind.

 

Yep, they are more expensive than the WA22.   I heard the HDVA 800 with Beyer T1, it wasn't bad at all, though I didn't A/Bing it with the other amps. 

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Just found out something when I got home.  I think I like the HD800 on the WA22 using low imp setting better.  I'll have to listen more tonite to confirm this.  So far, everything sounds more relaxing.  :L3000:

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Just tried it directly with my phone. Rumors of the HD800's demise has been greatly exaggerated. Actually doesn't sound bad at all. At least not in a sense that it hurts your ears to listen to it. Then I compare it to my Quickie + Crack setup, and the difference is apparent. Much more open, more details, and less raw sounding. Everything including vocals are much more natural and realistic sounding. However without a comparison, the HD800 direct to my phone would make most people, especially those outside of hi-fi, think these are the best headphones they've heard.

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Originally Posted by Revogamer View Post

I actually have tried quite a few other amps and found the HDVA600/HDVD800 beat them for the HD800 hands down - both single ended and balanced;

This includes the Burson Conductor and Bryston BHA-1 - each to their own; you may not like the sound - doesn't mean it is bad :P
Then I doubt you've tried enough amps.
post #7340 of 15308
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Originally Posted by Revogamer View Post
 

I actually have tried quite a few other amps and found the HDVA600/HDVD800 beat them for the HD800 hands down - both single ended and balanced;

 

This includes the Burson Conductor and Bryston BHA-1 - each to their own; you may not like the sound - doesn't mean it is bad :P

What you have is always the best until you hear something better.

I'd find it humorous if the almighty Sennheiser with the king HD800 made an amp HDVA600/VD800 that was bad.

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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post
 

What you have is always the best until you hear something better.

I'd find it humorous if the almighty Sennheiser with the king HD800 made an amp HDVA600/VD800 that was bad.

+1

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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post


Then I doubt you've tried enough amps.

+1

Both words of wisdom.:beerchug: 

post #7342 of 15308
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post


Then I doubt you've tried enough amps.

 

Of course there is always better :P

I do like the HDVD800 for the price i get though - it is about $200 more than a Woo WA7 for me :P 

 

Much cheaper than the V800/V200 combo too~

Although most likely a better dac for me next - then a WA22 :)

post #7343 of 15308
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Originally Posted by Revogamer View Post
 

 

Of course there is always better :P

I do like the HDVD800 for the price i get though - it is about $200 more than a Woo WA7 for me :P 

 

Much cheaper than the V800/V200 combo too~

Although most likely a better dac for me next - then a WA22 :)

 

What the heck!  That's a killer deal.  Wow.  :L3000:

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That is a very good price considering the HDVD800 is selling at double the price of the WA7.
Having said that I'm happy with the pairing of HD800 and WA7 that I have right now.
But in future if the budget allow, I'm thinking of better DAC and WA22
post #7345 of 15308
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Originally Posted by akhyar View Post

That is a very good price considering the HDVD800 is selling at double the price of the WA7.
Having said that I'm happy with the pairing of HD800 and WA7 that I have right now.
But in future if the budget allow, I'm thinking of better DAC and WA22

Both are wonderful with HD800.  The WA22 will cost you a bit more with upgraded tubes.  I find the WA7 really hits the spot with HD800 + it looks dang gorgeous.

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I kinda wish I hadn't sold the WA7 so quickly so I could try out how it pairs with the HD800. Then again, had I kept it, I probably couldn't afford the HD800. From what I remember though, I found the WA7 less warm than the Crack. For example, I found the Beyerdynamic T90 to pair better with the Crack since it's a very bright headphone with treble peaks and sibilance galore. I liked the HD700 on the WA7 better because the HD700 had a fuller bottom end, and the Crack made it a bit dark sounding. I'd gather I'd prefer the Crack more just because I found that even through the Crack alone, the HD800 was still a bit bright and thin sounding to me, and it was really adding the Quickie to the chain that got it right.

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During more than half a year I tried several gears with the HD800 for my quest of the best pairing for them and to my ears.

 

I tried some very expensive gears like EPA-007+ the dac HD-7A92, or some Luxman's high end gear (P-700u and P-1u with DA-06) or Triode gears...and I ended buying a hdvd800.

 

I've never tried the Taurus then but I think the HDVD800 and hdva600 do the job very very nicely.


Edited by Marshal Banana - 1/7/14 at 10:13pm
post #7348 of 15308
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post
 

I kinda wish I hadn't sold the WA7 so quickly so I could try out how it pairs with the HD800. Then again, had I kept it, I probably couldn't afford the HD800. From what I remember though, I found the WA7 less warm than the Crack. For example, I found the Beyerdynamic T90 to pair better with the Crack since it's a very bright headphone with treble peaks and sibilance galore. I liked the HD700 on the WA7 better because the HD700 had a fuller bottom end, and the Crack made it a bit dark sounding. I'd gather I'd prefer the Crack more just because I found that even through the Crack alone, the HD800 was still a bit bright and thin sounding to me, and it was really adding the Quickie to the chain that got it right.

 

I had an opportunity to compare the WA7 with Crack (without Speedball) at a meet a few months back. What was most noticeable the WA7 was smoother and more detailed. Mind you, it was using the cryo treated EH gold pin tubes, which probably are the pick of the crop. We have tried Crack with 5 or 6 different tubes and while it definitely made a diffference, the WA7 was always better sounding. Perhaps the Speedball could make a difference. We haven't used Quickie but Crack was fed from audio-gd NFB-5.2 used as a DAC/pre-amp. 

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Originally Posted by PleasantSounds View Post
 

 

I had an opportunity to compare the WA7 with Crack (without Speedball) at a meet a few months back. What was most noticeable the WA7 was smoother and more detailed. Mind you, it was using the cryo treated EH gold pin tubes, which probably are the pick of the crop. We have tried Crack with 5 or 6 different tubes and while it definitely made a diffference, the WA7 was always better sounding. Perhaps the Speedball could make a difference. We haven't used Quickie but Crack was fed from audio-gd NFB-5.2 used as a DAC/pre-amp. 


Yeah I had the EH upgrade tubes when I had the WA7. It was definitely a significant difference, especially in the bass for the HD700. Ultimately I chose to sell both the WA7 and HD700 because the HE-500 with speaker amp did everything better than the HD700 imo. Like I said, I liked the WA7 better than Crack for the HD700, so it could very well be great for Sennheisers. With the stock Crack (no speedball) that I have, I demoed with my friend's HD800 and came away unimpressed. This was before I had the Quickie. I only got the HD800 because of the $890 sale price. Comparing the Crack alone with the Quickie in the chain, I found it was big difference. I did other comparisons and concluded that the Quickie is pulling most of the weight/imparting its sound in the chain. In fact, I found when the Quickie was added to my Emotiva, a solid state speaker amp I use for my HE-500, and is not optimized for HD800 to actually sound better than Crack alone. The Emotiva alone, like many have reported, sounds pretty bad with the HD800. Of course, depending on gain stages the Quickie could very well work with the WA7 with no noise floor problems. Luckily the Crack matches the gain stage with the Quickie so it's dead silent. I've had the Speedball kit since the Crack kit arrived, but just haven't bothered to install it yet. Looks like I'll be adding it soon.

 

Also, I was never a big fan of the DAC that came with the WA7. I found that my current D3 DAC to be better in terms of detail retrieval. At that $1000 price, if I were to buy Woo Audio again, I would get the WA2. It's been my experience getting a specific amp for a specific headphone results in the best value for the sound, rather than getting a versatile amp. I'm definitely more esoteric in my gear compared to when I got the WA7.

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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 

Both are wonderful with HD800.  The WA22 will cost you a bit more with upgraded tubes.  I find the WA7 really hits the spot with HD800 + it looks dang gorgeous.

 

It indeed looks gorgeous and has a very high WAF.

My wife gives her thumbs up when I power on the WA7.

 

Not sure if she'll do the same if I bring home the WA2 or WA22 :tongue_smile:

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