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post #7186 of 25128
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

Wish I could comment on that, but I've only heard mine.

 

But I have learned to discern certain FR over the years, or to know emphasis in areas. I'm no expert, but the HD800's to me are as flat as you can get. The only area where they cheat - and most quality headphones do, is a dip at the 2-3k mark. But this is where we are most sensitive according the earologists (yes just made that word up coz I couldn't be ***** to wiki it.) and we have a natural dip there. The K701 by contrast have this area slightly emphasized and just above the line. If the Senn's were flatter in this area, we wouldn't make such a deal of the 6-7k peak imo.  

 

I don't envy headphone manufacturers trying to decide how to "tune" the frequency response. Between the variations in amplifiers on the market and the target demographic, it's impossible for a headphone to please everyone.

 

Consider the Equal Loudness Contour (ELC) and sensorineural hearing loss of individuals. I have often wondered if engineers design certain headphones to sound ideal for a specific demographic using as a model the typical hearing loss curve of the target age group and compensation for the ELC based on typical volume that age group might most often use.

 

Oh, and LugBug, since you opened the door - is Otolaryngologist the word you were looking for? I had never heard this word before a couple of months ago but now its part of my lexicon. It's fun to type and even funner to say! :biggrin:

post #7187 of 25128
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post


Is that an euphemism for defective? tongue.gif

Honestly though, I love the sound through my setup. To me it's just as well rounded as the HE-500, and is on par in rock/pop to me. Definitely different sounding than my friend's HD800 from memory, even through same chain.

 

Honestly, I heard different sounding on different HD650s and HD700s but not on the HD800s. 

post #7188 of 25128
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Originally Posted by pdrm360 View Post

No, you are not the only one. tongue.gif   


Yes our two of a kind here are far superior than the rest of those plebeian 10K peaks! And of course mine is the very best because the rise from 8K to 12K is more even!

Or you know, these variations in treble could be a few millimeter differences on headphone placement when testing or something.
Edited by Sonido - 1/2/14 at 1:52pm
post #7189 of 25128
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post


Yes our two of a kind here are far superior than the rest of those plebeian 10K peaks! And of course mine is the very best because the rise from 8K to 12K is more even!

Or you know, these variations in treble could be a few millimeter differences on headphone placement when testing or something.

 

It could be.

 

Even one pair of headphones has different result every time in the measurements. 

post #7190 of 25128
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post
 

 

I don't envy headphone manufacturers trying to decide how to "tune" the frequency response. Between the variations in amplifiers on the market and the target demographic, it's impossible for a headphone to please everyone.

 

Consider the Equal Loudness Contour (ELC) and sensorineural hearing loss of individuals. I have often wondered if engineers design certain headphones to sound ideal for a specific demographic using as a model the typical hearing loss curve of the target age group and compensation for the ELC based on typical volume that age group might most often use.

 

Oh, and LugBug, since you opened the door - is Otolaryngologist the word you were looking for? I had never heard this word before a couple of months ago but now its part of my lexicon. It's fun to type and even funner to say! :biggrin:

Thats the one! I knew it was long and I'm having trouble reading it, never mind pronouncing it :D

 

But you made a very valid point there in regards to FR and the pleasing of everyone. I have a feeling that in the next decade or so, everything will be louder! My daughter (21) has had trouble with her ears for a few years now and thats from using IEM's too loud, I'm sure it is. Wish she would listen to me instead :rolleyes: 

post #7191 of 25128
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

Thats the one! I knew it was long and I'm having trouble reading it, never mind pronouncing it :D

 

But you made a very valid point there in regards to FR and the pleasing of everyone. I have a feeling that in the next decade or so, everything will be louder! My daughter (21) has had trouble with her ears for a few years now and thats from using IEM's too loud, I'm sure it is. Wish she would listen to me instead :rolleyes: 

 

Ha ha. When I went to the VA for the first time, it was written on the wall in the hallway outside the Audiology dept. I stared at the sign for 2 or 3 minutes sounding it out until I could say it...lol.

 

I was (and still am) very strict about volume with my kids. Have been since day one. I would randomly make them give me their headphones and put them on to make sure they weren't not too loud. When I bought my daughter her first pair of headphones, I chose PortaPros - not just because they are a good inexpensive headphone, but because they are relatively inefficient. These days I don't need to spot check their volume too often, but when I do they are always obeying. Hopefully my hearing issues and scare tactics have paid off.

post #7192 of 25128
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post
 

 

Ha ha. When I went to the VA for the first time, it was written on the wall in the hallway outside the Audiology dept. I stared at the sign for 2 or 3 minutes sounding it out until I could say it...lol.

 

I was (and still am) very strict about volume with my kids. Have been since day one. I would randomly make them give me their headphones and put them on to make sure they weren't not too loud. When I bought my daughter her first pair of headphones, I chose PortaPros - not just because they are a good inexpensive headphone, but because they are relatively inefficient. These days I don't need to spot check their volume too often, but when I do they are always obeying. Hopefully my hearing issues and scare tactics have paid off.

I wish I could have had that kind of input with my daughter, but she's from a previous marriage and I was a young dad playing in bands. Though I'm probably going to be a bit OTT with my younger son when he gets to the age of listening to hp's and clubbing, going to gigs etc. He'll be the only kid with ear plugs at the school disco hahah 

post #7193 of 25128
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

I wish I could have had that kind of input with my daughter, but she's from a previous marriage and I was a young dad playing in bands. Though I'm probably going to be a bit OTT with my younger son when he gets to the age of listening to hp's and clubbing, going to gigs etc. He'll be the only kid with ear plugs at the school disco hahah 

 

Send him with earplugs and a bottle of Captain Morgan then.

post #7194 of 25128
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post
 

 

Send him with earplugs and a bottle of Captain Morgan then.

hahaha he'll sure be popular then! 

post #7195 of 25128

Exactly  :wink:

post #7196 of 25128
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

That has nothing to do with headphone choice, and everything to do with Californication being a DR5 album.

On a related note I really love the Imagine Dragons album, Nightvisions, but I can't listen to it on any form of playback, even a crappy stereo, because it's a DR4 album and it sounds heavily distorted on anything, even the most forgiving playback options. It's too bad. I will have to get the vinyl rip somehow. The vinyl version is DR11. Go figure.

I have had a listen to nightvisions through my c4 pro / hd800 and it sounds great. The synthetic bass is accurately reproduced in the same way as Michael Jackson's material and many will know promiscuous by nelly furtado. Other opinions would be valued.
I'll post up my findings for the dx100 when I give it a listen.
There's something very contemporary but also very retro about Imagine Dragons, I heard it on vinyl as my first listen. It was unimpressive sq wise but of course it was only going through speakers smily_headphones1.gif
post #7197 of 25128

The Nighvisions redbook is crap. Tons of reverb and peaks. Haven't heard the vinyl copy yet, but I'll pick it up soon.

post #7198 of 25128
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post

The Nighvisions redbook is crap. Tons of reverb and peaks. Haven't heard the vinyl copy yet, but I'll pick it up soon.

Yes it is awful. How can you stand listening to it, Take?
post #7199 of 25128
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


Yes it is awful. How can you stand listening to it, Take?


I also have that album.  While it's not the best quality, I just listen to the music itself instead of analyzing it for recording quality. 

post #7200 of 25128
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post
 


I also have that album.  While it's not the best quality, I just listen to the music itself instead of analyzing it for recording quality. 

 

You make it seem like neither of us are "listening to music". My comments were made strictly about the recording with the HD800. I can enjoy poor recording with lesser revealing headphones, and I do. 

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