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post #6871 of 13980
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Originally Posted by daniel0407 View Post
 

 

 

 It could be of course that after a few days/weeks my impression will change, that is why I am asking: is it a real fact that the HD800 has all those characteristics (overanalytical, lacks of musicality, over sibilant, lack of bass), or it depends on the setup?

 

 

 

I've had my HD800's for three months now and I am only now beginning to get them "managed" to the point that I am really enjoying them. My initial impressions of these phones were pretty negative I suppose, but I am seeing the light now.

 

In my case so far I have changed out my interconnects to a set that seem to favor midrange more and adjusted the gain settings on my amp. And after the first few days I decided to just hook them up to an old CD player and run them continuously on loop for two weeks. I understand what everyone say about break in, but it did seem to smooth the sound out somewhat.

 

Bass is there with some good slam on the tracks that have it. It's a disciplined bass though, with no bloom or exaggeration. A couple of old tracks I use to test these phones and bass are David Bowie's Bring me the disco king and PJ Harvey's Working for the man. 

 

These are great phones, and once you have heard them there is no going back to whatever you had before. I can only last a little while nowadays with my HE-500 or HD650 before missing the 800s. 

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Hey LugBug.. The Rega is keeper!! Absolutely awesome but it sounds better in my main A/V system where it replaced my DLIII. I can't even describe how good an upgrade it is I'm my main system.  The DLIII is forgiving.. The Rega does punch out, great detail and slightly warm of neutral. Very 'musical' in either setup.  Just smokes the DLIII in my main system.


Edited by MickeyVee - 12/14/13 at 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post
 

Hey LugBug.. The Rega is keeper!! Absolutely awesome but it sounds better in my main A/V system where it replaced my DLIII. I can't even describe how good an upgrade it is I'm my main system.  The DLIII is forgiving.. The Rega does punch out, great detail and slightly warm of neutral. Very 'musical' in either setup.  Just smokes the DLIII in my main system.

+1 the Rega and D18 are awesome in a stereo rig, the warmth really comes out 3D and liquid with these 2 DACs. They make me want to spin some vinyl :)


Edited by brunk - 12/14/13 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by daniel0407 View Post
 

Hi all,

 

A question here: has anybody been able to enjoy The Beatles's white album with the HD800?

 

In my setup the sound is horrible, small, compressed, etc... is it be normal for this album?

 

Best Regards,

 

Daniel

 The best I've heard 24/44 FLAC

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The best I've heard 24/44 FLAC
This talk of the Beatles reminded me of the HeadphonesXI work at AIX records. They are trying to mimic a 5.1 setup in headphones. Interesting stuff. Here is a Beatles sample.
post #6876 of 13980
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This talk of the Beatles reminded me of the HeadphonesXI work at AIX records. They are trying to mimic a 5.1 setup in headphones. Interesting stuff. Here is a Beatles sample.

 

Well yeah it's not like AIX is doing something groundbreaking, they are just using Smyth Realiser for their purposes, which all the credit should go for.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/418401/long-awaited-smyth-svs-realiser-now-available-for-purchase

 

There's also a head-fi'er software implementation of some Realiser PRIRs available:

 

https://fongaudio.com/out-of-your-head-software/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/689299/out-of-your-head-new-virtual-surround-simulator


Edited by hekeli - 12/15/13 at 2:36am
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Originally Posted by hekeli View Post
 

 

Well yeah it's not like AIX is doing something groundbreaking, they are just using Smyth Realiser for their purposes, which all the credit should go for.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/418401/long-awaited-smyth-svs-realiser-now-available-for-purchase

 

There's also a head-fi'er software implementation of some Realiser PRIRs available:

 

https://fongaudio.com/out-of-your-head-software/


I agree, though it is nice that they are trying to offer something extra for the headphiles out there.  My reason for posting this was that it demonstrated what can be done with an old Beatles track to overcome that very separated L/R sound as discussed above.

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Originally Posted by Audio Jester View Post
 


I agree, though it is nice that they are trying to offer something extra for the headphiles out there.  My reason for posting this was that it demonstrated what can be done with an old Beatles track to overcome that very separated L/R sound as discussed above.

 

Sure. But just to clarify for everyone that might not get it, obviously you need a proper Beatles 5.1 mix/master in the first place. Realiser just emulates the 5.1 in headphones.

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Originally Posted by hekeli View Post
 

 

Sure. But just to clarify for everyone that might not get it, obviously you need a proper Beatles 5.1 mix/master in the first place. Realiser just emulates the 5.1 in headphones.

:wink_face:  yeah, who's up for some time travel to sort this problem out?

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Just got back from auditioning the Naim DAC-V1.  Spent a couple of hours with it and this is the best that I've heard the HD800 so far.  The amp is very capable with plenty of punch and dynamics and the DAC section is out of this world.  The combo provides plenty air and detail, punch, beautiful mids and to die for highs.  Is it worth 2x the price of the WA7? That's very subjective and it probably isn't. Music is more engaging from bottom to top and a soundstage is out of this world. For me, this is an exceptional one box solution for the HD800.  The plan was to add a tube amp down the road but from the audition, I may not feel the need.  Only time will tell.

Don't get me wrong, the Woo WA7 is phenomenal and the Naim takes the HD800 to another level.

You've probably figured by now that I ordered one.  Going to get busy putting the WA7 up for sale to help fund it.

More to come once I've had it for a few weeks.


Edited by MickeyVee - 12/15/13 at 3:39pm
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What other one-box solutions have you compared the DAC-V1 with?

 

I'm looking for the best desktop setup I can get for $2k-ish.

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Excuse my exuberance, may have gone a little overboard (adjusted my post :).. I'm sure there's lots more but my comparison is to the Woo WA7.  See my HD800 review with the WA7. The only other high end that I know of in the $2K range is the McIntosh D100 but for me, it's too big for my desk.  I was going to audition it but was totally smitten by the Naim.  I found nothing lacking during my auditions.  Nice size and via USB, it can skip songs on my Mac plus provides volume control.  See Jude's review in the Winter Gift Guide in desktop dacs/amps for his impressions.

 

To quote Jude:

~~ With the headphones it drives well, the DAC-V1 sounds awesome, exhibiting great impact and detail, with a smoother tonality, no edge or glare of its own. So far, my favorite headphones with it have been the Sennheiser HD 800 and HD600/650--it seems to smile very favorably on their higher nominal impedances.

 

~~Naim has really created a beautiful sounding DAC in the DAC-V1. Its built-in headphone amp is certainly great when it's paired up correctly, but isn't quite as versatile a headphone driver as I'd hoped it would be. If you're looking for a desktop all-in-one--and not going to be driving relatively inefficient planar magnetic headphones--you should consider the Naim DAC-V1, especially if getting a high-end-sounding DAC in the process is something you'd value greatly.

 

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Originally Posted by fierce_freak View Post
 

What other one-box solutions have you compared the DAC-V1 with?

 

I'm looking for the best desktop setup I can get for $2k-ish.


Edited by MickeyVee - 12/15/13 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by fierce_freak View Post
 

What other one-box solutions have you compared the DAC-V1 with?

 

I'm looking for the best desktop setup I can get for $2k-ish.

Well I think that "best desktop setup" depends on your taste when you are ready to spend thousands of dollars for the HD800. For example one of my friends likes the Burson Conductor 9018 very much because it is very detailed and smooth; while another one is wishing for a HDVD800 as a Christmas present. However if you want something extremely detailed and neutral in this price range, you should give the Benchmark DAC2 HGC or DAC2 D a try. Of course in the future you can add an amplifier to alter the sound if you want because many people find the DAC2 HGC too cold for them to enjoy music. I've been using my DAC2 HGC and balanced B22 amp to feed the HD800 for about 10 months and I think I won't need to upgrade anymore.

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I'm taking a big chance, but I've 'invested' in the Geek Pulse X DAC with the Femto clock upgrade. Here's hoping a balanced DAC with dual ES9018K2M DACs will really make the HD800 shine when used with my impending Bryston BHA-1.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/687851/geek-pulse-geek-desktop-dac-amp-by-light-harmonics

 

It's still in campaign mode at Indiegogo but remember, it's a 'crowdsourced' product and might not ever be released. That said, Light Harmonics is well known for their DaVinci DAC and is about to release their first 'crowdsourced' product, the Geek Out in January, so my fears about spending the money now are pretty minimal. If anyone wants a referral from me during the last 12 days of the campaign, send me a PM.

 

A recent update from the LH Labs forum:

 

http://lhlabs.com/force/geekpulse/426-there-is-some-confused-people-out-there

 

I hope my answer can help you, but my primary language not English, grammar may be suck...


Geek Pulse X is full balanced design version of Geek Pulse
1. Geek Pulse X have XLR output connector (4 pin for headphone) on front panel and Dual XLR output connector (Daul 3-pin) for line out.
2. Geek Pulse X have Dual ES9018K2M dac chip inside, one dac chip for one audio channel decode

Geek LPS
1. Standalone product , Linear Power Supply
2. Main design for provide Pure Clear 12VDC Power for Geek Pulse / Geek Pulse X
(ps: Geek Pulse / Geek Pulse X have a Simply Power Supply in package, just buy it to upgrade the Power Supply system)
3. and have a USB in and USB out connector, to provide Pure Clear 5VDC USB power
(ps: you can google a word "iusbpower", it is same function of this product)

Geek Blue
1. Standalone product, Bluetooth 4.0 audio transfer.
2. Main design for connect a mobile to play audio using AptX technology.
(ps: It need Gavin/ Larry Ho to answer, if your mobile not have AptX technology, can it work??)
3. Geek Blue have a analog audio line out (direct connect active speaker or Amplifier) and Digital SPDIF output (connect DAC like Geek Pulse)

Femto Clock upgrade (Crystek Clock upgrade)
1. a parts call "Clock", using in Geek Pulse / Geek Pulse X
2. This upgrade will change a "very good clock" parts in Geek Pulse / Geek Pulse X, will change ONE SET (2 pieces) on each machine.
3. below USD$2000 price range DAC, In normal case cannot using this "very good clock" parts, because it's very expensive, need USD$60 UP per 1 piece.

 

Dale

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#25792 checking in, these cans sound very speaker-like even with weak amplification like mine lol (I know, the Magni don't deserve to drive HD800s, currently saving up for a better amp)

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