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Nope, sounds good here... maybe a little too panned to the extreme left and right... but not little, compressed or congested... This was with the AudioGD 11.32, Little Dot MK1+, Lyr and o2... all sounded good. I used the AudoGD for a dac... though I do have a ODAC on had too.

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Originally Posted by daniel0407 View Post
 

Hi all,

 

A question here: has anybody been able to enjoy The Beatles's white album with the HD800?

 

In my setup the sound is horrible, small, compressed, etc... is it be normal for this album?

 

Best Regards,

 

Daniel

There wasn't much crosstalk with stereo in those days. It was all about panning everything as far left or right. If you have the most recent remastering its sounds great to me, but using a headphone such as the HD800's it will no doubt sound its age. But would you want the Beatles any other way? :)

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There wasn't much crosstalk with stereo in those days. It was all about panning everything as far left or right. If you have the most recent remastering its sounds great to me, but using a headphone such as the HD800's it will no doubt sound its age. But would you want the Beatles any other way? :)

Beatles in Mono on my horns is my fav personally :) The USB remaster set is pretty darn good though.

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Yes it will not sound to great on any headphone due to the procedures they used. Stereo was new and the best way to show it was different was to push the left and right as far as possible. They overdid it slightly to where it didn't sound natural.

Same thing happened with high definition TV recently. People wanted more and more advanced specs to 'consume' so they made higher refreshing screens that ended up making movement look too smooth, too fluid, and too fast, as if the audio was lagging behind, and people moved unnaturally quickly. I always disable that crap on TVs of my family members and they all immediately appreciate going back to standard.
post #6860 of 24290

Upgraditis time again.. :blink: ..

 

Going to audition the Naim DAC-V1 tomorrow with the HD800 and my MacBook Air.  I'm currently running the Woo WA7 but want more out of my system.  Ran a Rega DAC with the WA7 and it did improve the overall sound but left me wanting more. I think the WA7 is holding me back. Really want to get to an endgame.  If the Naim is good as an all in one box, long enough to last me until I can fund a WA2 or Raptor, I'll probably pull the trigger. Did have a previous quick listen but going for a serious audition tomorrow.

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Upgraditis time again.. :blink: ..

 

Going to audition the Naim DAC-V1 tomorrow with the HD800 and my MacBook Air.  I'm currently running the Woo WA7 but want more out of my system.  Ran a Rega DAC with the WA7 and it did improve the overall sound but left me wanting more. I think the WA7 is holding me back. Really want to get to an endgame.  If the Naim is good as an all in one box, long enough to last me until I can fund a WA2 or Raptor, I'll probably pull the trigger. Did have a previous quick listen but going for a serious audition tomorrow.

The Rega didn't last long! Maybe it would go better with a SS amp perhaps? As it is a more forgiving dac. 

 

Good luck with the Naim though, I'd love to own one. Keep us informed.

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 It could be of course that after a few days/weeks my impression will change, that is why I am asking: is it a real fact that the HD800 has all those characteristics (overanalytical, lacks of musicality, over sibilant, lack of bass), or it depends on the setup?

 

 

 

I've had my HD800's for three months now and I am only now beginning to get them "managed" to the point that I am really enjoying them. My initial impressions of these phones were pretty negative I suppose, but I am seeing the light now.

 

In my case so far I have changed out my interconnects to a set that seem to favor midrange more and adjusted the gain settings on my amp. And after the first few days I decided to just hook them up to an old CD player and run them continuously on loop for two weeks. I understand what everyone say about break in, but it did seem to smooth the sound out somewhat.

 

Bass is there with some good slam on the tracks that have it. It's a disciplined bass though, with no bloom or exaggeration. A couple of old tracks I use to test these phones and bass are David Bowie's Bring me the disco king and PJ Harvey's Working for the man. 

 

These are great phones, and once you have heard them there is no going back to whatever you had before. I can only last a little while nowadays with my HE-500 or HD650 before missing the 800s. 

post #6863 of 24290

Hey LugBug.. The Rega is keeper!! Absolutely awesome but it sounds better in my main A/V system where it replaced my DLIII. I can't even describe how good an upgrade it is I'm my main system.  The DLIII is forgiving.. The Rega does punch out, great detail and slightly warm of neutral. Very 'musical' in either setup.  Just smokes the DLIII in my main system.


Edited by MickeyVee - 12/14/13 at 2:26pm
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Hey LugBug.. The Rega is keeper!! Absolutely awesome but it sounds better in my main A/V system where it replaced my DLIII. I can't even describe how good an upgrade it is I'm my main system.  The DLIII is forgiving.. The Rega does punch out, great detail and slightly warm of neutral. Very 'musical' in either setup.  Just smokes the DLIII in my main system.

+1 the Rega and D18 are awesome in a stereo rig, the warmth really comes out 3D and liquid with these 2 DACs. They make me want to spin some vinyl :)


Edited by brunk - 12/14/13 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by daniel0407 View Post
 

Hi all,

 

A question here: has anybody been able to enjoy The Beatles's white album with the HD800?

 

In my setup the sound is horrible, small, compressed, etc... is it be normal for this album?

 

Best Regards,

 

Daniel

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This talk of the Beatles reminded me of the HeadphonesXI work at AIX records. They are trying to mimic a 5.1 setup in headphones. Interesting stuff. Here is a Beatles sample.
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This talk of the Beatles reminded me of the HeadphonesXI work at AIX records. They are trying to mimic a 5.1 setup in headphones. Interesting stuff. Here is a Beatles sample.

 

Well yeah it's not like AIX is doing something groundbreaking, they are just using Smyth Realiser for their purposes, which all the credit should go for.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/418401/long-awaited-smyth-svs-realiser-now-available-for-purchase

 

There's also a head-fi'er software implementation of some Realiser PRIRs available:

 

https://fongaudio.com/out-of-your-head-software/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/689299/out-of-your-head-new-virtual-surround-simulator


Edited by hekeli - 12/15/13 at 2:36am
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Well yeah it's not like AIX is doing something groundbreaking, they are just using Smyth Realiser for their purposes, which all the credit should go for.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/418401/long-awaited-smyth-svs-realiser-now-available-for-purchase

 

There's also a head-fi'er software implementation of some Realiser PRIRs available:

 

https://fongaudio.com/out-of-your-head-software/


I agree, though it is nice that they are trying to offer something extra for the headphiles out there.  My reason for posting this was that it demonstrated what can be done with an old Beatles track to overcome that very separated L/R sound as discussed above.

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I agree, though it is nice that they are trying to offer something extra for the headphiles out there.  My reason for posting this was that it demonstrated what can be done with an old Beatles track to overcome that very separated L/R sound as discussed above.

 

Sure. But just to clarify for everyone that might not get it, obviously you need a proper Beatles 5.1 mix/master in the first place. Realiser just emulates the 5.1 in headphones.

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Sure. But just to clarify for everyone that might not get it, obviously you need a proper Beatles 5.1 mix/master in the first place. Realiser just emulates the 5.1 in headphones.

:wink_face:  yeah, who's up for some time travel to sort this problem out?

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