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post #6841 of 24367
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Originally Posted by thegrobe View Post

Quick question folks....without searching too deep into thread trying to find my answer.

Can the stock hd800 cable be re-terminated to 4 pin XLR? (Is the stock cable 4 individual wires all the way to the plug)

Thanks in advance

Yes. I have done this very thing with my stock cable.

post #6842 of 24367
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Originally Posted by Jd007 View Post

yes, you get two connectors going into each earcup so you have full 4-pin connection

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Originally Posted by brunk View Post

Yes. I have done this very thing with my stock cable.


Thanks, thinking of picking up a pair of these to see how they stack up vs LCD-3 on my Decware rig. With any luck, I should be getting LCD-X demos for an old-fashioned shootout. One winner stays!
post #6843 of 24367
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Thanks, thinking of picking up a pair of these to see how they stack up vs LCD-3 on my Decware rig. With any luck, I should be getting LCD-X demos for an old-fashioned shootout. One winner stays!

 

What - Are you saying Santa won't bring you a nice aftermarket balanced cable? :bigsmile_face: I was really glad when I got rid of the stock cable (mainly for SQ reasons, but also it's quite flimsy)

post #6844 of 24367
Nice work brunk! Did you basically snip the cable a few inches from the end, leaving the stock trs plug in place, and then attached m and f neutrik 4 pins to the bare ends? I may have to copy your good idea if I can work up the courage.

I'm perfectly comfortable building diy kits (or reterminating a busted cable), but snipping a functional cable makes me a bit squeamish.
Edited by skeptic - 12/11/13 at 5:06pm
post #6845 of 24367
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Nice work brunk! Did you basically snip the cable a few inches from the end, leaving the stock trs plug in place, and then attached m and f neutrik 4 pins to the bare ends? I may have to copy your good idea if I can work up the courage.

I'm perfectly comfortable building diy kits (or reterminating a busted cable), but snipping a functional cable makes me a bit squeamish.

Thanks! Yep, that's exactly what i did. Just put your DMM on the continuity test to determine which pair goes where, and be sure to mark the TRS side conductors when you cut so you don't mix them up. I also added a small piece of red heatshrink on the right side connector for ease of identification, the black lettering can be hard to see in low light.

 

Lol in regards to squeamish, I cut the TH-900 cable and did the same thing, now THAT one had me nervous! No one had done it before, so it was a mystery at the time. :tongue:

post #6846 of 24367
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Originally Posted by negura View Post

What - Are you saying Santa won't bring you a nice aftermarket balanced cable? bigsmile_face.gif  I was really glad when I got rid of the stock cable (mainly for SQ reasons, but also it's quite flimsy)

Well, of course that's a possibility...smily_headphones1.gif

But I want to hear them off the XLR outs on the Taboo to compare the phones fairly, hence a "quickie" retermination. If they stay, a nice aftermarket cable will be on the short list.
post #6847 of 24367
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Originally Posted by thegrobe View Post

Well, of course that's a possibility...smily_headphones1.gif

But I want to hear them off the XLR outs on the Taboo to compare the phones fairly, hence a "quickie" retermination. If they stay, a nice aftermarket cable will be on the short list.

 

I believe there is no difference between 1/4" and XLR outputs on the Taboo, since the Taboo is a single-ended amp and its XLR output is merely a single-ended output wired as XLR to accommodate XLR headphone cables; hence not truly balanced in the sense of the word.

post #6848 of 24367
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I believe there is no difference between 1/4" and XLR outputs on the Taboo, since the Taboo is a single-ended amp and its XLR output is merely a single-ended output wired as XLR to accommodate XLR headphone cables; hence not truly balanced in the sense of the word.

The Taboo mk 3 I'm talking about here, if that matters.

While the XLR out on the Taboo is a SE out, There's absolutely a SQ difference vs. the 1/4 out, as the 1/4 out requires "lucid mode" (a sort of crossfeed) to be activated. The XLR will run without that on. The circuits are tweaked in different ways, not fully understood by me. Lol

Anyways, should I be getting a pair of these...?
post #6849 of 24367
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post

I believe there is no difference between 1/4" and XLR outputs on the Taboo, since the Taboo is a single-ended amp and its XLR output is merely a single-ended output wired as XLR to accommodate XLR headphone cables; hence not truly balanced in the sense of the word.

The Taboo mk 3 I'm talking about here, if that matters.

While the XLR out on the Taboo is a SE out, There's absolutely a SQ difference vs. the 1/4 out, as the 1/4 out requires "lucid mode" (a sort of crossfeed) to be activated. The XLR will run without that on. The circuits are tweaked in different ways, not fully understood by me. Lol

Anyways, should I be getting a pair of these...?

Yes you should. I recall advising you to do so a few months back :tongue:

post #6850 of 24367
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post

I believe there is no difference between 1/4" and XLR outputs on the Taboo, since the Taboo is a single-ended amp and its XLR output is merely a single-ended output wired as XLR to accommodate XLR headphone cables; hence not truly balanced in the sense of the word.

The Taboo mk 3 I'm talking about here, if that matters.

While the XLR out on the Taboo is a SE out, There's absolutely a SQ difference vs. the 1/4 out, as the 1/4 out requires "lucid mode" (a sort of crossfeed) to be activated. The XLR will run without that on. The circuits are tweaked in different ways, not fully understood by me. Lol

Anyways, should I be getting a pair of these...?
post #6851 of 24367
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post

Yes you should. I recall advising you to do so a few months back tongue.gif

Haha...Yes, my friend. You planted the seed quite some time ago! It has been like a pebble in my shoe...bugging me...nagging at me.... to do something about it...LOL.

Also, the LCD-3 is great on the CSP3/Taboo3 combo, but there's also plenty of opinions that the HD 800 is a "revelation" on that setup..scales even better. I owe it to myself to give it a go.
post #6852 of 24367
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post

 

I believe there is no difference between 1/4" and XLR outputs on the Taboo, since the Taboo is a single-ended amp and its XLR output is merely a single-ended output wired as XLR to accommodate XLR headphone cables; hence not truly balanced in the sense of the word.

 


Being a speaker amp it has natively got 2 wires/channel whereas with single ended the - goes to a single point. Single-ended mode however is an work-around, and that is also why the crosfeed Old Lucid mode needs to be used to sound properly.


So it is actually  the cleanest path and a must have imo to use balanced output for the best SQ.


Edited by negura - 12/13/13 at 4:02pm
post #6853 of 24367
^ you said it better than me....

That said, I run the LCD off the speaker taps as well. I believe the only difference is a resistor in the XLR out. I'll try the HD800 of those as well, naturally. For the sake of trying all possibilities.
post #6854 of 24367

Hi all,

 

A question here: has anybody been able to enjoy The Beatles's white album with the HD800?

 

In my setup the sound is horrible, small, compressed, etc... is it be normal for this album?

 

Best Regards,

 

Daniel

post #6855 of 24367
Let me dig it out and give it a listen. I'll let you know how it is.
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