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post #6826 of 12326
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So using high-end gear with low-rez music files is a waste of time and money.


I'm reading what I read and everyone has their opinion. End of that.

post #6827 of 12326
Last night I downloaded the Eagles , the studio albums , from I tunes. They are 'mastered for I tunes' versions and I did some A/B comparisons with the 24/96 versions I have . Modern day 256 AAC is amazing that's all I can say. For one thing the dynamic range showing in pure music showed that the mastered for I tunes versions had about 2 -4 Db better range than the high res versions and to my ears the presentation was slightly better. I think It just shows how important the mastering is and compression done right can sound equal to high res. (to my ears, IMO Etc....)
post #6828 of 12326
So the message is don't discard your mp3s just yet
post #6829 of 12326
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Originally Posted by Takeanidea View Post

So the message is don't discard your mp3s just yet

Not exactly... if your ears don't hear a difference (or problem) when listening to MP3s on your gear, then by all means keep them and enjoy listening to them. But for those of us that do hear a difference, learn proper ripping and encoding methodology for your preferred format(s), and have fun re-discovering your music!

Dale
post #6830 of 12326
I am entirely in agreement with the above statement. 46 yr old ears aren't as golden as they used to be.
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Does anyone here find HD800 to be to polite? Something missing in attack and punch. I don't get this. They are obviously very dynamic, I would say more than K702 but when it comes to orchestral climaxes e.g. they just don't do it right IMHO. Thats also very noticeable in every record with decently captured Steinway. It sounds 'smaller' on HD800 compared to K702 or even HD600. Its easier to follow music's rhythmical structure on K702 than on HD800.:confused_face:

 

I really love the Senns and can't get enough of that extremely resolving sound but I found my self listening more and more to chamber music with them because of these 'cons'. I highly doubt it, but could it be my amp? I've tried 4 so far and currently running them with HA-160 as I like it best among these.

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I know exactly what you mean and I have always thought of it as a positive, it's almost the hd800 showing off its level of control and that amazing soundstage . If you look at the objective data on the 800s it's clear that they deliver the sound exactly as should be so maybe it's the recording that lacks the attack and other phones 'add' attack?
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What is your source and amplification? I'm finding that the source/DAC can make a huge difference. Listening to Patricia Barber right now and and it's like I'm sitting at the front table of a jazz club. It does not sound small at all. Fabulous attack, polite and aggressive when it needs to be.  Sending shivers up and down my spine.

If the recording/source/amplification is good, the HD800 will sing!  Any weakness in the chain will be revealed. :)

 

 

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Originally Posted by James-uk View Post

I know exactly what you mean and I have always thought of it as a positive, it's almost the hd800 showing off its level of control and that amazing soundstage . If you look at the objective data on the 800s it's clear that they deliver the sound exactly as should be so maybe it's the recording that lacks the attack and other phones 'add' attack?

Edited by MickeyVee - 12/10/13 at 6:41pm
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I hear that to Mickey, but I think it had more to do with the recording/ mastering. That's the beautiful thing about the 800s, they are so transparent they can sound distant and have weak attack with one recording and they can sound warm , intimate and have aggressive attack with another. They don't have a 'sound signature' . They just allow the 1 and 0s to pass through .
post #6835 of 12326
Via a transparent dac of course.....
post #6836 of 12326
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Originally Posted by Dexon View Post
 

Does anyone here find HD800 to be to polite? Something missing in attack and punch. I don't get this. They are obviously very dynamic, I would say more than K702 but when it comes to orchestral climaxes e.g. they just don't do it right IMHO. Thats also very noticeable in every record with decently captured Steinway. It sounds 'smaller' on HD800 compared to K702 or even HD600. Its easier to follow music's rhythmical structure on K702 than on HD800.:confused_face:

 

I really love the Senns and can't get enough of that extremely resolving sound but I found my self listening more and more to chamber music with them because of these 'cons'. I highly doubt it, but could it be my amp? I've tried 4 so far and currently running them with HA-160 as I like it best among these.

What other amps have you tried? The HD800 as people have said before has a very high ceiling. Maybe try it out with a TOTL amp. I am very happy with WA2/HD800 but with the right tubes. 

 

People talk about GSXMK2 and Luxman p1-u for solid state and WA5/22 and the DNA stratus for tube TOTL amps. 

 

I have not heard the HA-160 but maybe the HD800 deserves a little more. 

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+1 on that I found the burson a little aggressive. Plus it had a noisy floor! I can't deal with hiss. I've reached my end game rig with mac>iTunes >pure music>HDVD800> balanced cable>HD800/HD650. I'm still going to buy a crack because I want to build an amp plus I've never heard a tube amp!
post #6838 of 12326

Agreed to a point. If you feed a good amp with the DragonFly versus a Rega DAC (I have both), the bits sound much better with the Rega. :wink_face: That lack of sound signature is apparent with the rest of the chain. I thin we're saying the same thing.  Start out with a good recording, you will be rewarded.  Up the ante on the chain and you will reap greater rewards.

 

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Originally Posted by James-uk View Post

I hear that to Mickey, but I think it had more to do with the recording/ mastering. That's the beautiful thing about the 800s, they are so transparent they can sound distant and have weak attack with one recording and they can sound warm , intimate and have aggressive attack with another. They don't have a 'sound signature' . They just allow the 1 and 0s to pass through .

Edited by MickeyVee - 12/10/13 at 4:45pm
post #6839 of 12326
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Originally Posted by James-uk View Post

+1 on that I found the burson a little aggressive. Plus it had a noisy floor! I can't deal with hiss. I've reached my end game rig with mac>iTunes >pure music>HDVD800> balanced cable>HD800/HD650. I'm still going to buy a crack because I want to build an amp plus I've never heard a tube amp!

I plan on building a crack next year as well. I also heard HDVD800 with the HD800. I liked it, sounded very good. I will have 3 OTL's by next year and then it will be on to the DNA stratus i think. 

post #6840 of 12326
I asked the Mrs for the crack for Xmas and she laughed at me! Guess she doesn't want another reason for me to come to my man cave . Does any one else get the impression that everyone around them doesn't get the audio hobby at all?!
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