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post #6796 of 14015
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Originally Posted by Sorrodje View Post
 

It's finally easy to be impressed by HD800 the first time but It's a bit harder to live with it week after week . It definitely needs a well choosen upstream gear . Not necessrarily expensive gear but well choosen.  I purchased a HEGEL HD10 DAC a month ago. Very good DAC, neutral , accurate , not too analytical but .. HD800 hates this dac and  Music enjoyement became a nightmare .  I've a loaned Rega DAC right now and pleasure is back. Subtle differences indeed but these subtle differences can transform dream into nightmare with HD800.

 

 

The HD800 is really a very special thing.  OK I admit I beat a dead horse :o but now I can talk about my own experience.

 

I had a similar feeling when I got my Buffalo III. Of course I eventually replaced the HD800 with Stax but nonetheless the HD800 is a picky little thing. If not for the Buffalo there's a chance I might have sold the HD800 instead of the HE6 when I had both. 

post #6797 of 14015
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

Has any HD800 owner here tried out Stefan AudioArt's Ultra mod for HD800? According to James (owner of SAA), the Ultra mod combined with hardwiring his Endorphin cable makes the best upgrade for HD800. Of course that's him talking, but I really couldn't find anyone who has actually tried it out. Any feedback will be much appreciated.

 

Yeah contact fejnomit I think he got the full Ultra mod done.  I only got the Hardwiring done.  Now contact snapple10 she has my pair now.  Not sure if she had a stock pair before these to compare to.  That was my second pair.  And yes there was a clear difference between the hardwired Endorphon cable pair and each stock pair I had.

post #6798 of 14015

I was thinking about that mod as well. Few things keep me from doing so. Has SAA ever released the type of wire they use in their cables? It is hard to even read through all the hyperbole and vagueness on their website...

post #6799 of 14015
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post
 

I was thinking about that mod as well. Few things keep me from doing so. Has SAA ever released the type of wire they use in their cables? It is hard to even read through all the hyperbole and vagueness on their website...

 

To quote James,

 

"We use a proprietary Ultra-pure copper formulated to yield a rich, musical sonic presentation. It is the best in the industry - guaranteed."

post #6800 of 14015

I tell you what.  I felt like I got the wool pulled over my eyes when I felt how thick and fully the sleeve was then how thin the cable was inside. Not sure if the thinness of a cable makes a difference or not, but that cable sure is thin.  Yes what made me feel better about it was the SQ.

post #6801 of 14015
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Originally Posted by Thracian View Post

Hey guys!
Recently sold my LCD2 to move away from the warm sound which I sadly have grew tired from.

So, I'm thinking of picking a HD800 up in the neat future. Do y'all think it'll be picky with my Audio-GD 10.32? Seems like the HD800 is such a picky headphone. I only want to have one headphone so if i hope the HD800 will stay with me for a good while.

Also, what's the thoughts on the HD700 these days??

IME the HD800 aren't really picky with amps at all. What they are is transparent. This means that if you have a bad sounding amp then the Senn's will sound bad. But how many bad sounding amps are there these days? Not many. Source is more important ime once you have a decent enough amp. Your Audio GD amp will be fine and I guarantee it will wipe the floor (never understood that saying..) compared to your LCD2. 

 

Having said that, the better the amp the better the HD800 will sound. They scale through the roof - into the sky and all the way to outer space! Yes outer space! But just be wary of black holes, coz if you get snagged in one of em buggars you could end up spending and spending without any real improvement.. 

post #6802 of 14015
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

 

To quote James,

 

"We use a proprietary Ultra-pure copper formulated to yield a rich, musical sonic presentation. It is the best in the industry - guaranteed."

 

Which could mean OFC, OFHC, OCC, UP-OCC, or even ETP. All of them are small percentage apart (95%-99.99-%) which could mean "ultra-pure" depending on the individual's definition. They have a serious lack of technical info about their wire which makes me think they don't want people to know.

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Originally Posted by Greed View Post
 

 

Which could mean OFC, OFHC, OCC, UP-OCC, or even ETP. All of them are small percentage apart (95%-99.99-%) which could mean "ultra-pure" depending on the individual's definition. They have a serious lack of technical info about their wire which makes me think they don't want people to know.

 

E,

 

James is a great guy to talk to.  I'm sure he would tell you all the specifics if you call him.  Real easy guy to get along with and very professional.

post #6804 of 14015
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

E,

 

James is a great guy to talk to.  I'm sure he would tell you all the specifics if you call him.  Real easy guy to get along with and very professional.

 

Cool, maybe I'll give him a holler and see if I can get the skinny. :D

post #6805 of 14015

Today I tried an old Luxman LV-112 with the HD800 and the mdac AudioLab: very detailed, powerful sound and impact, nice air between the instruments. Great for an old amp. (output impedance 80 ohms). :)

post #6806 of 14015
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

IME the HD800 aren't really picky with amps at all. What they are is transparent. This means that if you have a bad sounding amp then the Senn's will sound bad. But how many bad sounding amps are there these days? Not many. Source is more important ime once you have a decent enough amp. Your Audio GD amp will be fine and I guarantee it will wipe the floor (never understood that saying..) compared to your LCD2. 

 

Having said that, the better the amp the better the HD800 will sound. They scale through the roof - into the sky and all the way to outer space! Yes outer space! But just be wary of black holes, coz if you get snagged in one of em buggars you could end up spending and spending without any real improvement.. 

 

 

I can't agree more. :beerchug:

 

From my (little) experience, a source can sound completely wrong with the HD800 although I never met unlistenable amps.  With inappropriate source, we always turn volume down and need to choose carefully tracks in order to avoid pain. In this case HD800 sounds sterile or lifeless at best ( it's what I had with my HEGEL HD10)  and mostly dry and harsh.  With a "wrong" amp,  HD800 sounds dull and bland with a serious lack of PRAT. It tends to loose bass too.  Not very enjoyable but not painful. That's how I try to analyse symptoms . 

 

When there's no symptomes I can quietly enjoy my Music and forget the gear . Then I know the gear+HD800 suits well my tastes 


Edited by Sorrodje - 12/7/13 at 9:43am
post #6807 of 14015
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

IME the HD800 aren't really picky with amps at all. What they are is transparent. This means that if you have a bad sounding amp then the Senn's will sound bad. But how many bad sounding amps are there these days? Not many. Source is more important ime once you have a decent enough amp. Your Audio GD amp will be fine and I guarantee it will wipe the floor (never understood that saying..) compared to your LCD2. 

 

Having said that, the better the amp the better the HD800 will sound. They scale through the roof - into the sky and all the way to outer space! Yes outer space! But just be wary of black holes, coz if you get snagged in one of em buggars you could end up spending and spending without any real improvement.. 

Thanks you. It becomes painful to read all the time that the HD800 is picky from amp. You give him s**t it makes you s**t.

post #6808 of 14015

It is picky with amps-there's a lot of bad amps out there. So I think Lug is right-the HD800 is so transparent it can easily reveal crappy amp/sources. Hence:picky.

 

-Daniel

post #6809 of 14015

Thanks for the reply guys!

 

Guess i'll stick to my current amp and get the HD800 in due time. Now to find a warm-ish source + amp!

Demoed the HD800 + ALO Studio 6 coming from a marantz CD transport(forgot the model), didn't want to leave the shop :D

post #6810 of 14015
I heard that at JEM too. Glorious sound, but not natural /organic enough to my liking. I thought the Marantz could be limiting factor here. Anyway, the asking price of $7000+ sgd in that shop is just way too high, given the recent reduction in price for the Studio 6.
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