Originally Posted by Maxvla
HE-6 = uncomfortable, bassy, poor soundstage, non-intuitive amping. I sold mine pretty fast after getting in the first run when they released at $1000. Now they are much more expensive and nothing's changed.
Originally Posted by BournePerfect
Lol at you HE6 guys.Go team!! It's the same 3-4 spamming the same stuff in every thread around here-regardless if it's on topic or not. Funniest part is-looking at your rigs-none of you have come close to reaching the HD800s ceiling, yet you claim the HE6 scales higher by virtue of...uh...there's more TOTL speaker amps than TOTL HD800-friendly amps?? You guys crack me up. At least listen to the choir of experienced HD800 users and have an ounce of restraint before making everything seem so cut and dry when it comes to amping either of these flagships. I mean you guys are the ones who have hundreds of pages of HE6 nonsense regarding 300W monoblocks-or-bust posts until reality finally settled in.
Get a clue-it's all subjective anyway.
Well stated Daniel. That was the very myth I was referring to. Glad to see that this is no longer the case with many anymore.
Originally Posted by Frank I
Daniel at the NY meet one of the headfi members put a balanced HD800 into the WA5 XLR jack and man was I surprised . The HD800 jumped up another notch. I was afraid to try it with mine but after listening I will use the balance doable and even Jack Wu was surprised how good it sounded. The HD800 scale higher. LOL
Originally Posted by brunk
^ Words of time, dedication, and experience right there. That surely counts for something.
I would say that your previous quote is also appropriate for Frank's second quote here.
Originally Posted by SHAHZADA123
I run my HE-6 with a 100wpc solid state amp & the HD800s with the Apex Pinnacle. Same source; Esoteric K01.
IMO the HD800s are far better.
Originally Posted by preproman
The mega watt myth has been debunked a long time ago - get over it. My amp is only 10W into 8 - so there you go. Myth gone. It's funny how people claim that others have not heard a TOTL HD800 rig lol.. The majority of users of HD800s are not using them on TOTL rigs anyway and claiming they are at their best. My question is - What exactly is a TOTL HD800 rig? (name of amps please) Please don't say the GS-X mk2. If so, been there done that. The F1J / HE-6 wipes the floor with it.
It's also funny how some people first tried the HE-6 a long time ago on a low level headphone amps like "Little Dots" and dismissed it. Things have changed, more research has been done. Those little a$% transformers in headphone amps does the HE-6 no good, they can not tame the highs and control the bass like the ones in speaker amps when it comes to complicated passages, they can't sustain high current peaks.
Get over it? It's not my myth. But I think we've embarked down the path of another myth. The magical unicorn amp/synergy myth (or at the very least: a dramatic exaggeration) where only a very select and rare amp can totally change the character of a headphone to make it sound like a brand new headphone. If there was, then I'd reckon that TOTL amp wasn't truly TOTL as it would have to be so coloured to do this. The HE-6s are purely a resistive load (being orthos) so put enough clean current and supply enough voltage and don't drop out of Class A; that is the definition of " good power" as you previously mentioned. Is there another mystical version of power I don't comprehend? Sorry, but I'm not going down that path. I'm very glad to see that the folks on the HE-6 thread no longer require 300W monoblocks to get that unicorn level of power as Daniel pointed out, but there is another unicorn now being touted and I'm sorry, but I just don't get it.
Now another point, when I upgraded my DACs over the years, the HD800s were completely open window into each move (and one of the very best at that I might add), the HE-6s certainly were not anywhere as close.
Do the HE-6's image like the HD800s? Nope, Is their bass and defined and textured, nope. Are they as quick and clean, nope. I would even take the HD800s and a WA2 over the HE-6 (on any amp) any day of the week for the reasons I mentioned above. Oh wait....I did.
Edited by MacedonianHero - 11/15/13 at 7:03am