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Sonic aside, one reason why I chose HD800 over HE-6 is that HE-6 always reminds me that I am on headphones listening to music due to its weight/design pressing on my head. On the other hand, HD800 is more capable of "disappearing", making it easier/more believable to transport me to the live performance.

+1, my point entirely 

post #6317 of 13874
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

With poor to average speakers...yes, way overkill. But give them some really good speakers and wowza!

I have no doubt that their amps sound good (they better for what they cost), but there is a reason why they aren't widely reviewed or loved by users. There is simply better speaker amps for the money, IMO of course. Also, when is the last time you have seen a Mc on the class a list on Stereophile...
Edited by Greed - 11/14/13 at 7:54pm
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I would to.  However, it's been a few Head Fier's that took a First Watt amp over a few McIntosh.  Just saying..:blink:

I just won't buy that sorry. :smile: No way, no how, no time. :p

Im sure your opinions would be different if you actually heard a First Watt amp.

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Im sure your opinions would be different if you actually heard a First Watt amp.

I'd love to, but this "magical" synergy with the HE-6s seems way over blown. Is the WA2/T1 synergy great, yes...does it transform them into other headphones...definitely not. And the serious issues I had with the HE-6s would not be "fixed" with an uber synergistic amp methinks. It would have to really be too coloured for that (turned up bass and tuned down treble among other things). I think I've dispelled (at least to me :p) the lots and lots of power myth, so not sure what else is left?

 

As well, the HE-6s do not scale high because they are so revealing, that's the HD800's problem...the HE-6s are just really too inefficient to be driven by run of the mill stuff. Again, this is from an owner who still holds them in very high regard and had them for over a year.


Edited by MacedonianHero - 11/14/13 at 8:00pm
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I have no doubt that their amps sound good (they better for what they cost), but there is a reason why they aren't widely reviewed or loved by users. There is simply better speaker amps for the money, IMO of course. Also, when is the last time you have seen a Mc on the class a list on Stereophile...

You really give any credence to Stereophile reviews? Trust me, there's politics there too. Go into some uber high end audio stores and see what they use and have for demoing.

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Yeah, maybe.  OT but Stereophile can't cover everything.  Have you heard Mc stuff with Martin Logan speakers?  Absolutely sublime.  There is no way any HP system can even come close. I'm probably a speaker guy at heart.  Back on topic.. There's not too much in the HP world that can beat a good HD800 system :)

 

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I have no doubt that their amps sound good (they better for what they cost), but there is a reason why they aren't widely reviewed or loved by users. There is simply better speaker amps for the money, IMO of course. Also, when is the last time you have seen a Mc on the class a list on Stereophile...
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

You really give any credence to Stereophile reviews? Trust me, there's politics there too. Go into some uber high end audio stores and see what they use and have for demoing.

Sure, you can't take it as gospel, but after tons of research on forums, Mc is not recommended very often in any price range. I've been making the rounds to my local Hi-Fi dealers, and while they do deal with Mc, none of the setups I heard had any Mc gear. They are long past their prime, IMO.
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Yeah, maybe.  OT but Stereophile can't cover everything.  Have you heard Mc stuff with Martin Logan speakers?  Absolutely sublime.  There is no way any HP system can even come close. I'm probably a speaker guy at heart.  Back on topic.. There's not too much in the HP world that can beat a good HD800 system :)

 

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I have no doubt that their amps sound good (they better for what they cost), but there is a reason why they aren't widely reviewed or loved by users. There is simply better speaker amps for the money, IMO of course. Also, when is the last time you have seen a Mc on the class a list on Stereophile...

+1!

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Sure, you can't take it as gospel, but after tons of research on forums, Mc is not recommended very often in any price range. I've been making the rounds to my local Hi-Fi dealers, and while they do deal with Mc, none of the setups I heard had any Mc gear. They are long past their prime, IMO.

Listen to their new gear...spectacular. When my kids get older and I can go back to speakers, McIntosh is definitely on my radar.

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Listen to their new gear...spectacular. When my kids get older and I can go back to speakers, McIntosh is definitely on my radar.

For you, I might just take another look. biggrin.gif
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Again OT, but if money wasn't an object, my choices would be Burmester, SimAudio Moon or McIntosh.  Just coming off the Toronto Audio Video Show, these were the absolute best setups I've heard. Let your ears decide.  OTOH I heard a $250K Mc system that was not too impressive.. they were using McIntosh speakers.

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Sure, you can't take it as gospel, but after tons of research on forums, Mc is not recommended very often in any price range. I've been making the rounds to my local Hi-Fi dealers, and while they do deal with Mc, none of the setups I heard had any Mc gear. They are long past their prime, IMO.
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For you, I might just take another look. biggrin.gif

 

That's just it with McIntosh, for the most part, they are wasted on most speakers. ;) 


Edited by MacedonianHero - 11/14/13 at 8:13pm
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post


darTZeel, Mark Levi, and Rogue for me. Speakers of course... Wilsons.

(Sorry for the OT)
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Maybe, but not wasted on Martin Logan's ;)

Back OT.. the HD800 are the closest HP's that I found that match the speed, air and accuracy of ML speakers. Maybe that's why I like them so much. Stax are out of my snack bracket so they're not in the running for me.

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Edited by MickeyVee - 11/14/13 at 8:17pm
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darTZeel, Mark Levi, and Rogue for me. Speakers of course... Wilsons.

(Sorry for the OT)

Sorry...again for being OT, but the best Wilson setup I've ever heard were driven by a McIntosh MC452.

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