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post #6301 of 18200
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post

McIntosh is overrated and over priced IMO! redface.gif

With poor to average speakers...yes, way overkill. But give them some really good speakers and wowza!

post #6302 of 18200
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

I'd take the power transformer in a high end McIntosh any day of the week. :o I've heard that amp drive Maggies, Wilsons and high end Focals all with glorious results. 

I would to.  However, it's been a few Head Fier's that took First Watt amps over a few McIntosh amps.  Just saying..:blink: 

post #6303 of 18200
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

I would to.  However, it's been a few Head Fier's that took a First Watt amp over a few McIntosh.  Just saying..:blink:

I just won't buy that sorry. :smile: No way, no how, no time. :p

post #6304 of 18200
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

I would to.  However, it's been a few Head Fier's that took First Watt amps over a few McIntosh amps.  Just saying..:blink: 

I would love to hear a First Watt amp, its still on my list. When i go solid state it will have to be a special one. 

post #6305 of 18200
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I just won't buy that sorry. :smile: No way, no how, no time. :p

 

It has been written.  So sorry about your Mcint&%^&  But it lost to a few First Watt amps - with the HE-6 mind you.

post #6306 of 18200
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It has been written.  So sorry about your Mcint&%^&  But it lost to a few First Watt amps - with the HE-6 mind you.

That's ridiculous, no A B has been done and you haven't asked what model I used. tongue.gif
post #6307 of 18200
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Sonic aside, one reason why I chose HD800 over HE-6 is that HE-6 always reminds me that I am on headphones listening to music due to its weight/design pressing on my head. On the other hand, HD800 is more capable of "disappearing", making it easier/more believable to transport me to the live performance.

+1, my point entirely 

post #6308 of 18200
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

With poor to average speakers...yes, way overkill. But give them some really good speakers and wowza!

I have no doubt that their amps sound good (they better for what they cost), but there is a reason why they aren't widely reviewed or loved by users. There is simply better speaker amps for the money, IMO of course. Also, when is the last time you have seen a Mc on the class a list on Stereophile...
Edited by Greed - 11/14/13 at 7:54pm
post #6309 of 18200
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

I would to.  However, it's been a few Head Fier's that took a First Watt amp over a few McIntosh.  Just saying..:blink:

I just won't buy that sorry. :smile: No way, no how, no time. :p

Im sure your opinions would be different if you actually heard a First Watt amp.

post #6310 of 18200
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Originally Posted by DarKen23 View Post
 

Im sure your opinions would be different if you actually heard a First Watt amp.

I'd love to, but this "magical" synergy with the HE-6s seems way over blown. Is the WA2/T1 synergy great, yes...does it transform them into other headphones...definitely not. And the serious issues I had with the HE-6s would not be "fixed" with an uber synergistic amp methinks. It would have to really be too coloured for that (turned up bass and tuned down treble among other things). I think I've dispelled (at least to me :p) the lots and lots of power myth, so not sure what else is left?

 

As well, the HE-6s do not scale high because they are so revealing, that's the HD800's problem...the HE-6s are just really too inefficient to be driven by run of the mill stuff. Again, this is from an owner who still holds them in very high regard and had them for over a year.


Edited by MacedonianHero - 11/14/13 at 8:00pm
post #6311 of 18200
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post


I have no doubt that their amps sound good (they better for what they cost), but there is a reason why they aren't widely reviewed or loved by users. There is simply better speaker amps for the money, IMO of course. Also, when is the last time you have seen a Mc on the class a list on Stereophile...

You really give any credence to Stereophile reviews? Trust me, there's politics there too. Go into some uber high end audio stores and see what they use and have for demoing.

post #6312 of 18200

Yeah, maybe.  OT but Stereophile can't cover everything.  Have you heard Mc stuff with Martin Logan speakers?  Absolutely sublime.  There is no way any HP system can even come close. I'm probably a speaker guy at heart.  Back on topic.. There's not too much in the HP world that can beat a good HD800 system :)

 

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Originally Posted by Greed View Post


I have no doubt that their amps sound good (they better for what they cost), but there is a reason why they aren't widely reviewed or loved by users. There is simply better speaker amps for the money, IMO of course. Also, when is the last time you have seen a Mc on the class a list on Stereophile...
post #6313 of 18200
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

You really give any credence to Stereophile reviews? Trust me, there's politics there too. Go into some uber high end audio stores and see what they use and have for demoing.

Sure, you can't take it as gospel, but after tons of research on forums, Mc is not recommended very often in any price range. I've been making the rounds to my local Hi-Fi dealers, and while they do deal with Mc, none of the setups I heard had any Mc gear. They are long past their prime, IMO.
post #6314 of 18200
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post
 

Yeah, maybe.  OT but Stereophile can't cover everything.  Have you heard Mc stuff with Martin Logan speakers?  Absolutely sublime.  There is no way any HP system can even come close. I'm probably a speaker guy at heart.  Back on topic.. There's not too much in the HP world that can beat a good HD800 system :)

 

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Originally Posted by Greed View Post


I have no doubt that their amps sound good (they better for what they cost), but there is a reason why they aren't widely reviewed or loved by users. There is simply better speaker amps for the money, IMO of course. Also, when is the last time you have seen a Mc on the class a list on Stereophile...

+1!

post #6315 of 18200
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Originally Posted by Greed View Post


Sure, you can't take it as gospel, but after tons of research on forums, Mc is not recommended very often in any price range. I've been making the rounds to my local Hi-Fi dealers, and while they do deal with Mc, none of the setups I heard had any Mc gear. They are long past their prime, IMO.

Listen to their new gear...spectacular. When my kids get older and I can go back to speakers, McIntosh is definitely on my radar.

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