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Impressions coming....in time. ;)

 

Thanks Ken!

 

 

-Daniel

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Very brief (<1 hr) listening impressions of the Luxman/HD800/DP-1: Very nice sounding...best ss I've heard with the HD800, although it's transparency is lacking slightly behind the Woo and way behind the ZDSE. The tonality is excellent-even better than the Woo, although they are both very good in that regard. They both have a little more 'meat on the bone' than the ZDSE, which seems to work better with some genres but not others. Bass is pretty good, similar to the Woo in that it's rounded a bit, but slightly better impact. ZDSE (with right tube) trounces them both in this regard.Treble is excellent-better than both the tube amps-either that or it's just rolling off the oft piercing highs of the Senns.

 

I wouldn't really call it warm or dark...but more kinda lacking some transparency if that makes sense. Guess it's the 'color' people refer to with this amp. I feel the Woo is a little more neutral-it can still be sharp in the highs-the Luxman...never does, yet.

 

Bah...more listening to do...strings and bass guitar on this thing are outstanding. Soundstaging still isn't on the level of the ZDSE, but I kind of expected that. Dynamics are good, better than the Woo (partly due to lower noise floor), but still not up to ZDSE levels. I'd say it's on par with the Bryson for dynamics, but not transparency...but much better tonality and about the same detail...more to come.

 

-Daniel

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Very brief (<1 hr) listening impressions of the Luxman/HD800/DP-1: Very nice sounding...best ss I've heard with the HD800, although it's transparency is lacking slightly behind the Woo and way behind the ZDSE. The tonality is excellent-even better than the Woo, although they are both very good in that regard. They both have a little more 'meat on the bone' than the ZDSE, which seems to work better with some genres but not others. Bass is pretty good, similar to the Woo in that it's rounded a bit, but slightly better impact. ZDSE (with right tube) trounces them both in this regard.Treble is excellent-better than both the tube amps-either that or it's just rolling off the oft piercing highs of the Senns.

 

I wouldn't really call it warm or dark...but more kinda lacking some transparency if that makes sense. Guess it's the 'color' people refer to with this amp. I feel the Woo is a little more neutral-it can still be sharp in the highs-the Luxman...never does, yet.

 

Bah...more listening to do...strings and bass guitar on this thing are outstanding. Soundstaging still isn't on the level of the ZDSE, but I kind of expected that. Dynamics are good, better than the Woo (partly due to lower noise floor), but still not up to ZDSE levels. I'd say it's on par with the Bryson for dynamics, but not transparency...but much better tonality and about the same detail...more to come.

 

-Daniel

 

great impressions, seems kinda like what i was expecting from what other people have said.

 

i love the woo audio bass. rounded and good impact. very musical. :D the fact that you said WA5 kinda sharp in the highs kinda bothers me, maybe its better for me to stick with WA2 and WA22, for the warmth and smoothness. i never find them bright, even with the worst recordings. the GSX does pretty good with this as well, though its more unforgiving. (also partly cause of my mytek, its extremely true to the recording and doesn't cover up anything in the treble, works well with warm amps cause of this).


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 9/14/13 at 10:43pm
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One thing with the Woo is that everything sounds...big. Not the soundstage really, but instruments, vocals...makes the soundstage seem somewhat lacking in depth because of this. I don't know how to explain it...I keep picturing the vocalist's face as a miniature blimp floating over the stage. Gosh that sounds lame but I can't think of how else to explain it. Like a giant helium balloon that is floating halfway to the ceiling because it's losing it's gaseous(?) properties (lacking depth as it deflates). Weird, I know, but there you have it.

 

The Luxman OTOH, has a more 'proper' presentation if you will-better depth and tonality than the Woo. The Woo peeled 1 more layer away from the music than the Lux, whereas the ZDSE peels like 5 layers away. Maybe that's just what a good OTL can do, idk.

 

-Daniel

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that might be the 300B sound people talk about, maybe thats why people say, either you like it or you don't.

 

and i love OTL sound, though the zana seems to sound quite different depending on tubes. i loved it with sophia 6sl7, did not like with the sylvania tube, was way too fast sounding for me. 

 

with the headamp gsx mk2, there are no layers, only music :D, its amazing what transparency is, everything in nothingness, the sound of nothingness, its like ego death, trippy and you just kinda have to experience it for yourself :tongue_smile:

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I would still hope there are 'layers' within the music however-which is a good strength of tube amps imo-at least the ZDSE anyway. That said-I'm gonna put my deposit down on a GSX soon-hoping for it as my end game ss like I'me hoping the Levi will prove to be my end game tube amp.

 

-Daniel

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its as good as people say.

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'cept everyone just says "it's good-it's great"-never really much impressions. Just throw out the 'wire with a gain, it's sounds precisely like your source' throwup repeated 1000 times. So DG-what's your source sound like? ;)

 

-Daniel

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a little light on the bass, but perhaps true to the recording, nothing ever sounds boosted, nothing ever sounds anemic, its just how the recording is. the bass comes out when u least expect it. extension is the best i've heard. u hear all the bass details, textures, nuances, with every headphone. 

 

the midrange is just slightly laidback, but not recessed, i would say, relaxed, mellowed, but it doesn't lose any speed, dynamics, clarity, or forwardness.

 

the decay is perfect, very natural, not SS and digital, but not colored either, and music just is so transparent, the music is very ethereal sounding at times, the way it just plays through, its really interesting. theres no grain, no hardness, anywhere to be found, the background is certainly very black, this is a dynamic amp, but it doesn't sound dynamic, it doesn't sound forced or aggressive in any way, its the perfect balance of being relaxed and dynamic at the same time, it finds that magic middle.

 

the treble is just enough to extract all the details. but not be fatiguing, with HD 800, it seems to sometimes border on that level, like u feel like its bright and its gonna fatigue, but in the end it doesn't, its quite like the hd 800s sound. other headphones don't seem to be bright. not warm either, theres no roll off, my DAC seems to have a little brightness at times, but its not artificial or digital, just very revealing and doesn't hold anything back in the treble, if your recording has treble it will be there, but it will only be what the recording has, it won't be unnatural sounding or adding any brightness to fake detail.

 

the details really are there and its the amps incredible resolution, not treble colorations like some SS amps give.

 

this is what i hear, and comes close to what people say the Mytek 192 sounds like as well.

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Nice impressions, thanks. I like the comment about the ss treble colorations. Sounds like my Luxman where I keep getting ready to wince at the treble peak...but it doesn't come. I was just telling Ken how I wish the Bryston and the Lux had a baby-it'd be perfect for an ss imo. I'll see if the GSX can straddle that like at all...not the colorations really, but the soundstaging, dynamics, and transparency without stridency with the HD800. Wish I still had my 'dead nuts neutral' Master 8 to pair with my Eximus/HD800-in fact I REALLY wish someone could compare the M8 and and the GSX sometime...that M8 is a wire with a gain if I've ever heard one-but without the shrill, brittleness of the Dynalo I used to own...

 

-Daniel

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Nice impressions, thanks. I like the comment about the ss treble colorations. Sounds like my Luxman where I keep getting ready to wince at the treble peak...but it doesn't come. I was just telling Ken how I wish the Bryston and the Lux had a baby-it'd be perfect for an ss imo. I'll see if the GSX can straddle that like at all...not the colorations really, but the soundstaging, dynamics, and transparency without stridency with the HD800. Wish I still had my 'dead nuts neutral' Master 8 to pair with my Eximus/HD800-in fact I REALLY wish someone could compare the M8 and and the GSX sometime...that M8 is a wire with a gain if I've ever heard one-but without the shrill, brittleness of the Dynalo I used to own...

 

-Daniel

 

it does!#!@#@#@!#

 

its as good as i've ever heard. i can't believe the HD 800s sounded as good as they did.

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Sounds like it'll make a decent bedside rig for me. Any comments regarding the soundstage? Depth, size, precision? This is where ss can rarely match a good tube amp ime...

 

-Daniel

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Nice impressions, thanks. I like the comment about the ss treble colorations. Sounds like my Luxman where I keep getting ready to wince at the treble peak...but it doesn't come. I was just telling Ken how I wish the Bryston and the Lux had a baby-it'd be perfect for an ss imo. I'll see if the GSX can straddle that like at all...not the colorations really, but the soundstaging, dynamics, and transparency without stridency with the HD800. Wish I still had my 'dead nuts neutral' Master 8 to pair with my Eximus/HD800-in fact I REALLY wish someone could compare the M8 and and the GSX sometime...that M8 is a wire with a gain if I've ever heard one-but without the shrill, brittleness of the Dynalo I used to own...

-Daniel

it does!#!@#@#@!#

its as good as i've ever heard. i can't believe the HD 800s sounded as good as they did.
Hmm, I can't say anything about the pairing as ive never heard the gsx but I've always felt like headamps really fall short in terms of sound stage. Maybe someone else can also chime in?
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Ima go out on a limb and say it depends on the source. *sigh*

 

-Daniel

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