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I have just placed a Super 7 order for my HD800. I wonder if the tubes that come with the tube package would work fine with the HD800.. Also may start looking to replace my D18 DAC..would be looking for something in the 1-1,5 bracket. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I recommend waiting to start buying tubes until you have the unit with the stock tubes and spend time with it...that way you'll be able to have a baseline and see what changes.  ALSO, you can describe what you are looking for in tubes and get some help figuring out which ones might get you to where you want to go.  I bought some NOS tubes while waiting for my amp that didn't end up playing well on the S7 for what I wanted (but luckily they sound GOOD in the Balancing Act).

 

So that's another recommendation of mine, if any tubes don't sound good in the Super 7 because of tone or presentation (not talking about noise/distortion/problems) and you can afford to hold on to them...they might sound good in other amps.   

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I think with the WA2 the HD800 is a tad bit too smooth and warm, and a bit of detail is lost. I do like the full bodied bass and the tamed treble though, but looking for a SS amp to compare. Right now I've narrowed down to: Burson Soloist, Bryston BHA-1, 2/3-channel B22. Which one do you guys think matches the best with the HD800?

post #5163 of 12319
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Originally Posted by Jd007 View Post

I think with the WA2 the HD800 is a tad bit too smooth and warm, and a bit of detail is lost. I do like the full bodied bass and the tamed treble though, but looking for a SS amp to compare. Right now I've narrowed down to: Burson Soloist, Bryston BHA-1, 2/3-channel B22. Which one do you guys think matches the best with the HD800?
I've read great stories about the BHA1. Id rather go for the Yulong A18

EDIT: misread. Yea bha1. The a18 is considered smooth and warm as well but still has all the bells and whistles. Are you looking for a really neutral amp?
Edited by DarKen23 - 8/31/13 at 2:38pm
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Originally Posted by CEE TEE View Post

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Originally Posted by Bolardito View Post

I have just placed a Super 7 order for my HD800. I wonder if the tubes that come with the tube package would work fine with the HD800.. Also may start looking to replace my D18 DAC..would be looking for something in the 1-1,5 bracket. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I recommend waiting to start buying tubes until you have the unit with the stock tubes and spend time with it...that way you'll be able to have a baseline and see what changes.  ALSO, you can describe what you are looking for in tubes and get some help figuring out which ones might get you to where you want to go.  I bought some NOS tubes while waiting for my amp that didn't end up playing well on the S7 for what I wanted (but luckily they sound GOOD in the Balancing Act).

So that's another recommendation of mine, if any tubes don't sound good in the Super 7 because of tone or presentation (not talking about noise/distortion/problems) and you can afford to hold on to them...they might sound good in other amps.   
I know nothing of tubes, and I have a question. Would you say tubes change with time in terms of sonics?
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I know nothing of tubes, and I have a question. Would you say tubes change with time in terms of sonics?

Yes, with time they may become noisy or microphonic.

 

Some also needs a few hours to warm up after getting out of storage for the first fifty years.

post #5166 of 12319
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I know nothing of tubes, and I have a question. Would you say tubes change with time in terms of sonics?

They do eventually wear down and degrade SQ over time, but we're typically talking a few thousand hours, or extremely hot conditions.

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Thank you kindly
post #5168 of 12319
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Originally Posted by Jd007 View Post

I think with the WA2 the HD800 is a tad bit too smooth and warm, and a bit of detail is lost. I do like the full bodied bass and the tamed treble though, but looking for a SS amp to compare. Right now I've narrowed down to: Burson Soloist, Bryston BHA-1, 2/3-channel B22. Which one do you guys think matches the best with the HD800?

What tubes were you using with the WA2?

post #5169 of 12319
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Originally Posted by Jd007 View Post

I think with the WA2 the HD800 is a tad bit too smooth and warm, and a bit of detail is lost. I do like the full bodied bass and the tamed treble though, but looking for a SS amp to compare. Right now I've narrowed down to: Burson Soloist, Bryston BHA-1, 2/3-channel B22. Which one do you guys think matches the best with the HD800?

 

GEC 6AS7G and GZ34/596 would fix that biggrin.gif

post #5170 of 12319
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

What tubes were you using with the WA2?

I am using amperex bugle boys and sovtek power tubes. Anyway I think my search for a SS amp is done as I placed an order for the GS-x mk2. Let the wait begin...
post #5171 of 12319
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

GEC 6AS7G and GZ34/596 would fix that biggrin.gif

Thanks for the suggestion! How much would those cost me, roughly?
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Sadly, those tubes have gotten extremely pricey and are likely to cost more than certain alternative amps you might consider that would have more of the sound signature you're looking for.  For example, there are quite a few of us who very happily drive our hd800's with bh crack + speedball kits - which present a more detailed, dynamic and exciting sound signature with the hd800's than the Woo OTL options in any event.  I owned a WA3 for many years and speak from experience on this point.  

 

I'm in the process of building bh's signature "mainline" amp right now.  Its a much more complicated build but should be marvelous when I get 'er done. 

post #5173 of 12319
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Originally Posted by Jd007 View Post


Thanks for the suggestion! How much would those cost me, roughly?

 

GEC 6AS7G is like 200-250+ per tube, u can sometimes find cheaper tubes and pairs (i paid $350 for 5 of them cause i got lucky). 

 

they're very rare and quite hard to find them on sale but they do come up. 

 

the 596 is like 100-150 for a new tube, but they are hard to come by as well. 

GZ34 metal base is like 300$-800$, generally 350$-400$ would get u a new one, but some people overprice this tube as well..

post #5174 of 12319
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

GEC 6AS7G is like 200-250+ per tube, u can sometimes find cheaper tubes and pairs (i paid $350 for 5 of them cause i got lucky). 

 

they're very rare and quite hard to find them on sale but they do come up. 

 

the 596 is like 100-150 for a new tube, but they are hard to come by as well. 

GZ34 metal base is like 300$-800$, generally 350$-400$ would get u a new one, but some people overprice this tube as well..

damn that's kinda pricey, especially since i just ordered a new amp. thanks though, i'll try them later if i get a chance/more money.

post #5175 of 12319
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Originally Posted by skeptic View Post

Sadly, those tubes have gotten extremely pricey and are likely to cost more than certain alternative amps you might consider that would have more of the sound signature you're looking for.  For example, there are quite a few of us who very happily drive our hd800's with bh crack + speedball kits - which present a more detailed, dynamic and exciting sound signature with the hd800's than the Woo OTL options in any event.  I owned a WA3 for many years and speak from experience on this point.  

 

I'm in the process of building bh's signature "mainline" amp right now.  Its a much more complicated build but should be marvelous when I get 'er done. 

 

WA2 never lacks details or dynamics, of course, after i maxed out the tubes, if not, then you do lose a bit of transparency and micro- detail.

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