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Wait...No!!!!!!

 

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Paired my HD800 with the WA6.  I wasn't impressed.  While the dynamics felt more musical, there seems to be a little wanting in power and drive.  I set it to high gain with the volume pot turned up to around 4 o'clock.  
 

I am considering the WA6-SE and so I borrowed the WA6 from a friend.  Is there a significant difference or improvement in power and resolve from the WA6 to the SE version?  

 

 

 

 

 

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Paired my HD800 with the WA6.  I wasn't impressed.  While the dynamics felt more musical, there seems to be a little wanting in power and drive.  I set it to high gain with the volume pot turned up to around 4 o'clock.  
 

I am considering the WA6-SE and so I borrowed the WA6 from a friend.  Is there a significant difference or improvement in power and resolve from the WA6 to the SE version?  

 

 

The answer is yes. Even though they share the same number, the two are largely different and really aren't comparable. If you have the budget for a WA6-SE, then you will not regret it. Expect significantly more power and a dryer less tubey sound. 

However, it sounds like the WA6 would benefit from some tube rolling, what driver tubes is your friend using? May I suggest the 6SN7s? Or 6GL7s? I never need to go past 1 O'clock on my WA6 with the HD 800 (and that's when I really want to rock it). Usually it's between 10-12 O'clock. 

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The answer is yes. Even though they share the same number, the two are largely different and really aren't comparable. If you have the budget for a WA6-SE, then you will not regret it. Expect significantly more power and a dryer less tubey sound. 

However, it sounds like the WA6 would benefit from some tube rolling, what driver tubes is your friend using? May I suggest the 6SN7s? Or 6GL7s? I never need to go past 1 O'clock on my WA6 with the HD 800 (and that's when I really want to rock it). Usually it's between 10-12 O'clock. 


He uses the Sylvannia tubes.  And while I appreciate the body and extension the tubes give to the highs, the soundstage seems to be shrunk substantially.  

Does the WA6-SE retain the strength of the HD800s?  Or does it shrink the wide and airy soundstage of the Sennheisers also?

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He uses the Sylvannia tubes.  And while I appreciate the body and extension the tubes give to the highs, the soundstage seems to be shrunk substantially.  

Does the WA6-SE retain the strength of the HD800s?  Or does it shrink the wide and airy soundstage of the Sennheisers also?


I see.... Well I think he should definitely be looking into other tubes if he wants to use the WA6 with the HD800s. If he likes the treble extension then maybe some 7N7s would do the trick (and still keep soundstage wide). 

I can't comment too much on the SE because I've only heard them a few times. The changes I described though were very obvious and apparent, so that's for certain. If you want to know more in depth detail about the HD 800 and WA6-SE, I would pm Dubstep Girl. Her WA6-SE is her baby. tongue.gif

P.s. Nice pictures. Forgot to compliment you on the photos before. biggrin.gif


Edited by scolaiw - 8/28/13 at 5:27am
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I see.... Well I think he should definitely be looking into other tubes if he wants to use the WA6 with the HD800s. If he likes the treble extension then maybe some 7N7s would do the trick (and still keep soundstage wide). 

I can't comment too much on the SE because I've only heard them a few times. The changes I described though were very obvious and apparent, so that's for certain. If you want to know more in depth detail about the HD 800 and WA6-SE, I would pm Dubstep Girl. Her WA6-SE is her baby. tongue.gif

P.s. Nice pictures. Forgot to compliment you on the photos before. biggrin.gif



Thanks for your inputs, sir.

I have already communicated with Dubstep Girl that is why I borrowed the WA6 that she sold to my friend.  On this score, I think I shall do as you advised.  Hope she won't mind the bother.  Once again, thank you for taking your time to reply to my queries. 

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The wa6-se is known for having a wide soundstage. More than my wa2 as well.

The wa6-se never goes past 9-10 o clock with hd 800s its very powerful and capable, its faster and more ss like, but can also get pretty lush with good tube rolling. And you can always use more powerful tubes as well. Even with lcd-2 i found it to be as good as burson soloist/conductor, so it has the power and dynamics
Edited by Dubstep Girl - 8/28/13 at 6:05am
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thanks for posting, that explains a lot. why would radiohead opt for that? surely they know there stuff.

All pop/rock music is compressed otherwise it wouldn't sound as good (or bad :). Try recording live drums and electric guitar,keyboards etc without compression and you would either one huge distorted mess or to minimise distortion it would be too soft/quiet to appreciate. The sounds have to be squashed in order to make them as loud as each other without losing their intended impact. Acoustic instruments are different because you can gage the dynamics/peaks with mics before you record and then mixing is all you should need to do. Although most drums would still need to be squashed into a pleasing noise to fit the picture.

Its a very hard recording practice with classical music trying to replicate that live performance and to be true to the natural dynamics, but even then you will still most likely have to use some compression with brass and timpani for example. But as a general rule recorded classical music is the best for dynamics if you want to test your equipment. 

 

With Radiohead you have such an array of sounds from acoustic to electronic, they make musical soup! If no compression was used it would be un-listenable. It's as dynamic as it can possibly be though, as that is the job of the producer to do this. To be fair Radiohead albums do actually sound very dynamic compared to most pop. 

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what's a good solid state amp for the hd800 in the $1k-$1.5k range? i have the love my hd800s with the wa2 but it gets kinda hot especially now in the summer. i've tried the v200 and found the soundstage to be lacking so i sold.

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Nuforce Dac100. Best ss amp under a grand for the HD800s I've heard-and a dac that competes with every other $1,000 dac, and bests the Gungnir by a fair margin imo. Excellent piece of kit.

 

-Daniel

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what's a good solid state amp for the hd800 in the $1k-$1.5k range? i have the love my hd800s with the wa2 but it gets kinda hot especially now in the summer. i've tried the v200 and found the soundstage to be lacking so i sold.

I heard the Bryston BHA-1 does a nice job....Anyone agree?....Daniel?  biggrin.gif

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I heard the Bryston BHA-1 does a nice job....Anyone agree?....Daniel?  biggrin.gif

I thought it was a good amp. I might say I still prefer the Soloist to it in the same price range though. I'm a big fan of Bryston's products and I'm very seriously considering a BDA-2 DAC upgrade soon.

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I have owned the bryston bha-1 and found it an average match for the hd 800. I returned it to the dealer after only a couple of days. get an hifiman ef-6. you'll thank me later.

 

that thing has unreal synergy with hd 800. in that price bracket I seriously doubt there is much better solid state amps. the ef-6 has a much better synergy than my own 3 channel b22. and the b22 drives the hd 800 beautifully.

 

my friend own a v200. I almost pulled the trigger on one myself. there is always one popping up on canuckaudiomart almost every month.  the v200 is a great amplifier, but the ef-6 has a much better synergy with the hd 800 and better soundstage too.

 

if I ever buy another amplifier for my hd 800 it is going to be an allnic audio hpa 5000.  there is a distributor in Canada that has one in stock and I am darn tempted to pull the trigger. but it is insanely expensive.

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