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post #4906 of 12471
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

Using 2 amps in a headphone chain is silly. I also don't think the Beta is a good HD800 amp at all. If shelf space is truly the problem, running 2 large double case amps is not the way to fix that.

Given the big picture and the laws of diminishing return most of what we do here falls within the purview of silly. I wasn't satisfied with the HD800 and the Zana, and neither was I satisfied with the Beta. Together they play well and cover most of the bases. Same case applied to the LCD. The Decware amps, Taboo and CSP2+, when together, provide enough of an improvement for me to justify the expenditure and shelf space. If it's silly, it's in the way that any purchase intended to improve upon a current sound is silly.

As for shelf space I've already built upwards of 7 feet vertical. Unless I plan on enshrining these amps with a 12 foot structure, a couple of them, the "redundants", should probably be sold.
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Originally Posted by ericfarrell85 View Post

Given the big picture and the laws of diminishing return most of what we do here falls within the purview of silly. I wasn't satisfied with the HD800 and the Zana, and neither was I satisfied with the Beta. Together they play well and cover most of the bases. Same case applied to the LCD. The Decware amps, Taboo and CSP2+, when together, provide enough of an improvement for me to justify the expenditure and shelf space. If it's silly, it's in the way that any purchase intended to improve upon a current sound is silly.

As for shelf space I've already built upwards of 7 feet vertical. Unless I plan on enshrining these amps with a 12 foot structure, a couple of them, the "redundants", should probably be sold.


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post #4908 of 12471
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Originally Posted by ericfarrell85 View Post


Given the big picture and the laws of diminishing return most of what we do here falls within the purview of silly. I wasn't satisfied with the HD800 and the Zana, and neither was I satisfied with the Beta. Together they play well and cover most of the bases. Same case applied to the LCD. The Decware amps, Taboo and CSP2+, when together, provide enough of an improvement for me to justify the expenditure and shelf space. If it's silly, it's in the way that any purchase intended to improve upon a current sound is silly.

As for shelf space I've already built upwards of 7 feet vertical. Unless I plan on enshrining these amps with a 12 foot structure, a couple of them, the "redundants", should probably be sold.

 

So eric,

 

Don't remember any of your impressions with the HD800 and the Dynahi?  Your Dynahi is SE not balanced?  

 

I have a 2013 build coming doing a lot of things different in the build to make an attempt to pair well with the HD800s

 

Anyway would like to read your impressions of the two together.

post #4909 of 12471
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Originally Posted by ericfarrell85 View Post

Finally sprung the amp that has been an unrelenting curiousity for me, the Balancing Act. Between the BA, Zana, balanced Beta and Dynahi I'll be able to try all kinds of combinations with this, my favorite dynamic headphone. If the preamped Zana into a 3 channel Beta was any indication, the BA unto a balanced Beta should be a real knockout. Now comes the hardest part of choosing which amps will need to go. I've run out of shelf space.
Cool, congrats! I've always wanted to live with both ZD and BA at the same time too...which output tubes will you run in the BA? I found that the Solid Plate EML 300B almost gave the extra low end and high end like a Beta 22, might be doubling up there. And I prefer the KR PX-4 and Solid Plate EML 300B to the Mesh Plate in the BA. Definitely interested to hear your thoughts on the different combos and tubes. You've got similar stuff but a lot more!
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

+1 

 

I recently re-aquired some K701's and my HD800's sound like HD650's in comparison. (only in brightness)

 

That said, I do know there is a tweak in the treble top. It's there but its not nearly as pronounced as some peeps exclaim. It helps bring out detail, but I've never heard them sound harsh or too bright. This is a badly beaten up deceased horse of a subject, but a subject that will always be of consideration with these phones. Its a shame because If I'd never read about the peak I really wouldn't have noticed it. Or gave it a second thought.. 

Same here . 

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Got the HD800(2XXXX) today, i'm pairing it with a Concero HP(sabre 9018) portable DAC, must be a good combo because i've not found the HD800 to be bright or have any hint on sibilance of any kind, even average recordings sound good, everything sounds smooth.

post #4912 of 12471
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Originally Posted by CEE TEE View Post

Cool, congrats! I've always wanted to live with both ZD and BA at the same time too...which output tubes will you run in the BA? I found that the Solid Plate EML 300B almost gave the extra low end and high end like a Beta 22, might be doubling up there. And I prefer the KR PX-4 and Solid Plate EML 300B to the Mesh Plate in the BA. Definitely interested to hear your thoughts on the different combos and tubes. You've got similar stuff but a lot more!

Thanks, I've wanted to hear the BA for a long time now. I'll be using solid plate EML 300B with a TS round plate in the driver. I'll probably spring for an PX-4 in the future to see what all the fuss is about. I'm hoping the slightly thicker 300B will mesh well with the HD800. As for the Zana I may not have much use left for it, but it's been my favorite piece of equipment for so long that I'll likely keep it in the event I want a more OTL type sound. Besides the AD2000 and HD650 are really very close to perfect on the Zana.
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Originally Posted by ericfarrell85 View Post


Thanks, I've wanted to hear the BA for a long time now. I'll be using solid plate EML 300B with a TS round plate in the driver. I'll probably spring for an PX-4 in the future to see what all the fuss is about. I'm hoping the slightly thicker 300B will mesh well with the HD800. As for the Zana I may not have much use left for it, but it's been my favorite piece of equipment for so long that I'll likely keep it in the event I want a more OTL type sound. Besides the AD2000 and HD650 are really very close to perfect on the Zana.

 

Although the 300B's thick warm sound may be a good match with the HD800, I've read many people saying they prefer the PX-4 far more, even with the HD800. Then again, I've never heard it myself, so I'm really curious.

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Edited by NightFlight - 8/20/13 at 5:50pm
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Hello everyone. I'm new member of Head-Fi. I have a question.

I came to Head-Fi, because I listen HD800, and finding a good amp. I use LaFigaro 339, but I want better sound.

I thought maybe, Zana Deux, WA22, Phonitor, Apex Peak & Volcano.

What amp you recommend? If you compared amps please explain sound.

And excuse me for bad English.

post #4916 of 12471
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Originally Posted by Shin-Ra View Post

Hello everyone. I'm new member of Head-Fi. I have a question.

I came to Head-Fi, because I listen HD800, and finding a good amp. I use LaFigaro 339, but I want better sound.

I thought maybe, Zana Deux, WA22, Phonitor, Apex Peak & Volcano.

What amp you recommend? If you compared amps please explain sound.

And excuse me for bad English.

 

Welcome to Head-Fi!

I've only listened to Zana Deux SE and Phonitor. Of these two, ZDSE is clearly the winner.

I'm personally curious about the WA22 too.

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@ songmic, You are one (of a few) lucky person who heard the HPA5000 with the HD800 already. What are the reasons (sound-wise) that you prefered the Allnic over your ZDSE ? Did you hear the Allnic also with other HPs ? I am just trying to find out more about this amp. See also: http://www.head-fi.org/t/639491/any-opinions-reviews-on-the-allnic-hpa5000 Thanks !
post #4918 of 12471
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Originally Posted by Shin-Ra View Post

Hello everyone. I'm new member of Head-Fi. I have a question.

I came to Head-Fi, because I listen HD800, and finding a good amp. I use LaFigaro 339, but I want better sound.

I thought maybe, Zana Deux, WA22, Phonitor, Apex Peak & Volcano.

What amp you recommend? If you compared amps please explain sound.

And excuse me for bad English.

 

I really like the HD800 with the DNA Stratus out of the box (cheap Shuguang tubes) or EML meshes. The ECZD, despite its lush OTL sound has a slight bit of edge in the treble that may not go well with the HD800s unless you Anax mod them, get a cable, or perform other tweaks. I have know many who love the ECZD combo though. The Apex P/V has a treble etch, but moreover it's cooler sound may not go well with the HD800s (I love the Apex P/V with the Audezes and HE500s - not so much with HD800s - although with appropriate DAC, you can get it to work.) The Phonitor is OK with the HD800s. The WA22 can be setup with the right tonal balance, but it lacks in technicalities which the HD800 is capable of.

 

The Stratus and ZD are notably more dynamic than the other amps. In terms of microdetail, Apex P/V, Stratus, and ZD are about equivalent and better than the rest.


Edited by purrin - 8/21/13 at 3:12pm
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P.S. Forgot to mention ECS7 for the HD800 as well.

post #4920 of 12471
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Originally Posted by Shin-Ra View Post

Hello everyone. I'm new member of Head-Fi. I have a question.

I came to Head-Fi, because I listen HD800, and finding a good amp. I use LaFigaro 339, but I want better sound.

I thought maybe, Zana Deux, WA22, Phonitor, Apex Peak & Volcano.

What amp you recommend? If you compared amps please explain sound.

And excuse me for bad English.

I'm liking the Decware Taboo MKIII with my HD800's, The Taboo thread has some impressions on it that you could read through. http://www.head-fi.org/t/655788/the-decware-taboo-mk-111-appreciation-thread

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