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post #4261 of 13806
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The CSP2+ is a fantastic pairing with the HD800's. Highly recommended.

even on its own, ie not preamp fed into a taboo? also what would be the sound signature difference between the taboo and the csp2+, since you own both, as they are 2x the price diff? thanks

Even on its own....With the Taboo there is more body. Each actually compliments the other. However, as a stand alone amp for Sennheiser HP's the CSP2+ is wonderful. It is the smoother of the two. The Taboo is a more muscular sound. I like both. I have them connected since I also use the combo with speakers. I can switch between their HP jacks and enjoy either one individually. Fun times....

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It just arrived today-and I plugged it in about five minutes ago. What a beautiful unit! I'm feeding it balanced from my Eximus into the HD800. I don't intend on listening to it for a few days at least as I hear it settles in quite a bit, and I'm just too busy this week(end).

I do have high hopes for it, as I've been in search for an 'end game' SS amp to use as a secondary unit when my Leviathan arrives. If I like this, I'll probably pull the trigger on the Rag and sell this when it comes out (bigger, more power, speakers etc). I'm mainly intrigued because Jason says it no longer has him missing the 'tube sound'-and as an Eddie Current fan I'm intrigued by Purrin's comments that it has some of the EC flavor. Look for impressions from me in about a week-I'll mainly be comparing it to my Eximus/ZDSE/HD800 reference system as I await the Levi. Stay tuned...

-Daniel

I will be waiting eagerly for your verdict.
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Yes, we all know, but just stick the headphones on your head and tell us something already.  biggrin.gif

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Lol fine. Just listened to 3 songs I'm extremely familiar with...not bad. :) Very detailed, a little top-tilted (no, it's not the DP-1)-bass surprisingly is the weakest link at this point! eek.gif So far my ZDSE with the right tubes beats it in every area-but then again this is why I don't like writing impressions til I've let it burn in for a while-I've found that most amps I've owned settled in after a bit. I *gasp* wasn't even impressed with the ZDSE out of the box-took a couple hundred hours burn in to settle-which is around the figure some of the MJ familiars are touting. So...more impressions, say, Monday after 100 hours... :)

 

-Daniel

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Thank you.

 

Burn in that brain!

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Thanks Daniel! You know, i might start offering a burn-in service. Send all your gear to me for a month and I will do the burning in for you.
He he he....
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, a little top-tilted (no, it's not the DP-1)-bass surprisingly is the weakest link at this point! eek.gif

 

-Daniel

 

That's what I liked about it paired with the LCDs   But also what I didn't like about it paired with the HD800s.  Pick your poison.  I hope the Rag fix the lack of bass part though.

 

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It it has some of the EC flavor. 

 

-Daniel

 

 

That's interesting.  I wonder in what ways?

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Thank goodness it wasn't the price for a new one, was considering selling my current HD 800s to pick up a colorful HD 800.

 

If this happens, I'll be watching.
 
Btw, how horrible would the HD800s sound out of an O2?
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Sounds quite good actually. Mostly there is a loss of dynamic contrast and punch. It sounds a little flat, but otherwise superb for the price.
post #4270 of 13806
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Originally Posted by Jd007 View Post

tried the v200 today. omg the shrinkage in the soundstage completely cripples it as a good amp in the $1k price range IMO. my $200 LD MK III destroys it driving my hd800s IMO. sure the v200 is a tad bit smoother, but the soundstage is pathetic in comparison, and completely nullifies one of the biggest strengths of the hd800. did not notice significant differences elsewhere. absolutely disappointed with the v200. i tried it on the he500 as well, and the soundstage of the he500 was already not as good as the hd800, and on the v200 it completely disappeared. i have generally in the past not noticed too big of a difference between amps, but this time it was so drastic that i felt the need to warn ppl thinking about the v200: don't (well read what i said and if you don't care about soundstage and wants the slightly smoother signature for 5x the price then sure go for it, but otherwise don't).

 

I did tons of research before buying my Violectric rig, and have been really happy with it.  To my ears the V200 sounds fantastic with both my HE-500 and HD 800, but as I haven't heard any other high-end rigs I don't have any other frame of reference.  As I generally prefer darkish to brightish, I suspect that the V200 is a good choice for me with the HD 800.  There's plenty of space and soundstage, to my ears, and a satisfying sense of power and low-end oomph when playing heavy music.  Maybe one day I'll feel differently if/when I get to hear other high-end gear.

 

It's always interesting to see such divergent opinions.  I bought the V200 on the basis of glowing recommendations from head-fi folks who I greatly respect.  But I know that some people have never gotten on with it, citing the limited soundstage as a key drawback.  I even saw one thread where someone said it was muddy and had a 'v-shaped' signature.  eek.gif

 

Anyway, will be very interesting to compare with the Taboo once it arrives.

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I enjoyed my V200 for the time I had it. Yes it is a warm amplifier, but it's also very musical, soothing and relaxing. Sometimes that can be too much of a good thing, I agree. But it's a decent amplifier if priced right. The Taboo is several classes above. It's a beast and gets a lot more out of both the LCD-3s and HD800s. If you get some good NOS tubes to fine tune it, the agility, soundstage and dynamics of the LCD-3s are on yet another level. I would however tune the Taboo differently for the HD800s than for the LCD-3s, obviously, as they sound so differently. The stock tubes are a very good compromise for both.

 

For the HD800s + Taboo MK3 I recommend the following tubes: Amperex EL84s, Amperex Golden Globes 6DJ8 and the GEC U52 rectifier for the HD800s. You will have unbelievable mids, strong tight bass, no treble sharpness and just the right amount of tube sound with body, musicality and liquidity. That's my tastes but it makes the HD800s more euphonic and retains their strengths.


Edited by negura - 8/2/13 at 3:45am
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That's what I liked about it paired with the LCDs   But also what I didn't like about it paired with the HD800s.  Pick your poison.  I hope the Rag fix the lack of bass part though.

 

 

 

That's interesting.  I wonder in what ways?

Well, imo the biggest thing that sets the EC stuff apart is...musical involvement. Engagement-just like their site says. For me a lot of it comes down to the massive soundstaging, microdynamics, micro details, transparency, texture...sounds cliché I know, but these higher end amps really do set themselves apart, once you grasp their nuances. I'm sure you've experienced a lot of that with the GSX...? Anyway, here's hoping the MJ can pull some of that off-but yeah, so far...well I'll give it some more burn in. I agree this may be better suited for darker cans-but a lot of us knew that already lol. We'll see what happens...

 

-Daniel

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Thank you.

 

Burn in that brain!

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Hard to claim brain in when I don't listen to it while it burns in. rolleyes.gif That's why I like listening to something very short term to get a better perspective of any changes after it's settled a couple hundred hours-OTOH I've had numerous headphones and amps that didn't seem to change much at all. IME.

 

-Daniel

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Sounds quite good actually. Mostly there is a loss of dynamic contrast and punch. It sounds a little flat, but otherwise superb for the price.

 

Have to agree with Maxvla, had the O2 + ODAC combo driving my HD 800s for a short period of time. If you're just planning on saving up piecemeal as you complete your system, it's an acceptable pairing to tide you over. I'm not sure I'd bother with the HD 800s if you're planning to just stick with the O2 + ODAC though. I thought it sounded acceptable in my previous chain, but it wasn't until I heard them out of better (and for me, warmer) gear that I had that "Oh" moment where I finally understood why people liked it so much.
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Have to agree with Maxvla, had the O2 + ODAC combo driving my HD 800s for a short period of time. If you're just planning on saving up piecemeal as you complete your system, it's an acceptable pairing to tide you over. [...] I thought it sounded acceptable in my previous chain,

So different from the "unbearable", "not musical" impression I got from someone that wanted to upgrade directly from his razer tiamat headphones to the hd800, using the O2+ ODAC as source.

I think  that  the hd800 are not so polyvalent , or that they have a particular sound signature not for everyone. All these plays with different sources , to  alter the original sound signature of hd800,

and make it "more polyvalent".


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 8/2/13 at 9:20am
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