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post #4036 of 14016
Thanks! I think the CS300XS is a better spec'ed version with NOS tubes, but they are basically the same, yes.


Do you hear any hiss or hum?
post #4037 of 14016
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A bottlehead crack with speedball is excellent with hd800s. take a gander at the crack thread for lots of comparisons and impressions on the pairing.

Edit, regarding extrabigmehdi comment above- there's no need to speculate about the crack's distortion specs, particularly if you've never even heard the amp rolleyes.gif The fact of the matter is that it is more detailed, punchy and dynamic, and quite a bit less tubey, than other frequently recommended commercial tube options (i.e. Woo amps). With the constant current upgrade in place, the crack is simply a very well thought out otl kit amp, that pairs tremendously well with sennheisers and which also has great community support through the bh forums. Because it has a high output impedance (like most all other otl's), it boosts the hd800's bass a bit due to the spike in the hd800's impedance curve.

Well, you said that it's less tubey. I deduce that it's still tubey ,so it's no more "speculation " but deduction. (and frankly I'll assume this each time that someone say that a particular tube "sound great" : there's no advantage of tubes over solid state except coloration & distorsion).

Add to the mix a limited damping factor, but the hdvd800 does also this.

I didn't "heard the amp", but I've read enough experts opinion on the question.

post #4038 of 14016
Yes, it is, but it does not translate into better sound. Skylab have both, primarily only for headphhone, then he sold the XS because it produce the same SQ, for headphone.
Mine fortunately is very quiet with all range of impedance (spare the IEMs), from the very sensitive AD2K, HD650, HD800 and LCD 2.1
Edited by RedBull - 7/28/13 at 4:08pm
post #4039 of 14016
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Well, you said that it's less tubey. I deduce that it's still tubey ,so it's no more "speculation " but deduction. (and frankly I'll assume this each time that someone say that a particular tube "sound great" : there's no advantage of tubes over solid state except coloration & distorsion).

Add to the mix a limited damping factor, but the hdvd800 does also this.

I didn't "heard the amp", but I've read enough experts opinion on the question.

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Thanks again, RedBull. Now the hunt for a nice used HD800 begins!
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post #4043 of 14016
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Thanks again, RedBull. Now the hunt for a nice used HD800 begins!

 

Why you think they wont sound good out your Master 6 or Soloist?

post #4044 of 14016
Because I find the stock HD800 light sounding with a dry treble driven by a SS amp. I plan doing the Anaxilus mod (or similar) and with a bass boost at hand on the Leben, I can get the bass quantity I want, hopefully. The very low output impedance of my two SS amps doesn't help either, while I expect the Leben to have something to add there. Also, since I felt the 800 was dry sounding (in the treble), tubes might be a good choice. Who knows? Time will tell.
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^^ this way, please ==> http://www.head-fi.org/t/671693/valve-dac-no-point-in-valve-amp

post #4046 of 14016
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Because I find the stock HD800 light sounding with a dry treble driven by a SS amp. I plan doing the Anaxilus mod (or similar) and with a bass boost at hand on the Leben, I can get the bass quantity I want, hopefully. The very low output impedance of my two SS amps doesn't help either, while I expect the Leben to have something to add there. Also, since I felt the 800 was dry sounding (in the treble), tubes might be a good choice. Who knows? Time will tell.

 

Awww man - just get the GS-X mk2 biggrin.gif

post #4047 of 14016
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Because I find the stock HD800 light sounding with a dry treble driven by a SS amp. I plan doing the Anaxilus mod (or similar) and with a bass boost at hand on the Leben, I can get the bass quantity I want, hopefully. The very low output impedance of my two SS amps doesn't help either, while I expect the Leben to have something to add there. Also, since I felt the 800 was dry sounding (in the treble), tubes might be a good choice. Who knows? Time will tell.

 

Good hunting!  I hope you enjoy the Leben.

 

Good thing is, I can enjoy Leben in two ways. 

For acoustics, I leave the bass boost at neutral, for Hip hop or mainstream pop music, I boost the bass one notch.  This will smoothen the harsh mids from poorly recorded music and really add a good slam, more rounded slam, not the tight type kick.  Good stuff. It's like having 2 amps in one box with a switch of a button.

post #4048 of 14016
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Awww man - just get the GS-X mk2 biggrin.gif

 

Get the Leben

 

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post #4049 of 14016
Im not a "tube guy" but I will admit the Crack (with Speedball) does sound very good with the HD800. Ive never done it, but tested blind, I believe you would be hard-pressed to guess it was a tube amp.

And this is because "tube sound" is a myth IMO. Yes, an amp can sound "tubey," but that doesn't mean all tube amps sound tubey. Ive heard plenty that don't. Actually, after listening to many amps of all varieties, I believe that most amps, regardless of topology, sound fairly similar. This is the context of how the HD800 sounds far different from the HD600 - the difference between headphones is huge compared to the differences between amps.

Using an amp or DAC to "tune" your system is just nuts to me.
post #4050 of 14016
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Using an amp or DAC to "tune" your system is just nuts to me.

 

But palmfish.   Amps are not cookie cutters.  All amps will not sound good with the HD800s.  So you have your Headphones - HD800s.  You'll just use any ole amp?  Or will you "tune" your chain with the amp that "you" think sounds better with your choice of headphone - "HD800"?

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