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post #3931 of 13980
I know that equal loudness graph, just that it's not generally apply for HD800 sound signature.
post #3932 of 13980

One of the greatest strengths of the HD800s, imo, is their ability to sound great a very low volumes. Other headphones I've had couldn't do that-I'd say the T1 was the worst culprit in that regard. I do feel part of this comes down to amp choice though, as I felt the need to keep turning up the m-Stage-probably because it was slightly too warm for my tastes, and I felt I was missing transparency and details compared to other amps I've owned.

 

And yes, the HD800 bass is excellent even at lower volumes-speaking of quality over quantity here...

 

-Daniel

post #3933 of 13980
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

Personally I've never heard any Shure headphone, so I'm not sure who you're directing that at.

 

OTOH, I've never seen someone get away with as much bias and disguised attacks against a headphone of all things, let alone in it's own appreciation thread, as I have you. But hey at least you own it now, amirite? rolleyes.gif

 

-Daniel

 

 

+1

 

And still comparing the 940s to the HD800s - really??


Edited by preproman - 7/25/13 at 8:14am
post #3934 of 13980

ahh you need someone to be devils advocate guys, otherwise threads become boring. Especially appreciation ones ;) 

 

 

Heres a pic of my latest HD800 amp. Smooth as butter and enough bass to cause a prolapse! tongue_smile.gif 

 

 

post #3935 of 13980
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And still comparing the 940s to the HD800s - really??


Not  this time,  I  was comparing how the  discussion bias change for one headphone to an other.

Sorry , if I  mentioned the srh940 again, I only have three full size headphones.

post #3936 of 13980

Very nice... I've been eyeing the Sansui AUxxx line as well.  L3000.gif

post #3937 of 13980
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Very nice... I've been eyeing the Sansui AUxxx line as well.  L3000.gif

beerchug.gif I'd defo go for it, they are pure quality. The AU 101 and my 505 make ideal headphone amps as they are low powered but with all of the Sansui goodness!  

post #3938 of 13980
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post


And yes, the HD800 bass is excellent even at lower volumes-speaking of quality over quantity here...

I  know that the bass excellent, but do you feel the need to raise the volume to enjoy the bass ?

Actually what I  think is that the hd800 might have a tad too much treble, and you'd need the raise the volume to hear better the lows.

post #3939 of 13980

I've never once suggested/recommended raising the volume to bring up the bass on the HD800.

 

Not once.

 

Not ever.

 

Not one single time.

 

 

Ever.

 

 

 

But I have mentioned how well the HD800s perform at low volume listening-even the bass. Mentioned it a few times in fact.

Also, if you're still having treble issues with the HD800-I'd look further up the chain and find the culprit. wink_face.gif

 

-Daniel

post #3940 of 13980
I always thought that issues with low level listening were due to the amp and not the headphone. I haven't heard them all but better amps have usually solved the case with low level listening not sounding as good as louder volumes.
post #3941 of 13980
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

ahh you need someone to be devils advocate guys, otherwise threads become boring. Especially appreciation ones ;) 

 

 

Heres a pic of my latest HD800 amp. Smooth as butter and enough bass to cause a prolapse! tongue_smile.gif 

 

 

 

Do you like it better than the pioneer?
post #3942 of 13980
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

Smooth as butter and enough bass to cause a prolapse! tongue_smile.gif 

 

 

 

The HD-800 I found actually has good bass. My initial impression of it was not enough bass, but after some hours on them I found the bass to be good. I also own a pair of HE-500s and the bass on the two are quite comparable. The 800s' bass is a bit thin, and the 500s' bass has a bit more rumble, but the difference is very subtle and most of the time I don't even notice the difference.

post #3943 of 13980

It shouldn't have anything to do with the amp.

 

Higher volumes do sound better than lower volumes and the equal loudness curve is the biggest reason. This is why many vintage stereos have a "loudness button" and newer receivers have a "midnight mode."

 

Depending on how loud you normally listen, your like/dislike of an amp or headphone can vary greatly. This is yet another reason why people hear and react differently to the same components - and why precise level matching is critical when comparing two components. A difference of one decibel might not be noticeable as a difference in volume to the ear, but in a side-by-side comparison, it's enough to make one amp/DAC/headphone sound more dynamic, airy, 3D, etc. than another.

 

This is reason enough for me to disregard any subjective review of an upstream component - a view headphone reviews with a grain of salt.

post #3944 of 13980
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

A difference of one decibel might not be noticeable as a difference in volume to the ear, but in a side-by-side comparison, it's enough to make one amp/DAC/headphone sound more dynamic, airy, 3D, etc. than another.

Yeah, I  know it too much. I  have tricked myself so many time with dsp, "thinking it sound better"  only to realize that's the the loudness difference I  enjoy. Even with an equalizer, I  tend to boost instinctively all the bands, and that's one reason that makes them hard to tweak them by ear.

post #3945 of 13980
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Originally Posted by Jd007 View Post

 

The HD-800 I found actually has good bass. My initial impression of it was not enough bass, but after some hours on them I found the bass to be good. I also own a pair of HE-500s and the bass on the two are quite comparable. The 800s' bass is a bit thin, and the 500s' bass has a bit more rumble, but the difference is very subtle and most of the time I don't even notice the difference.

 

I find that the HE-500's are a bit thicker in the mid-bass and have a more "meaty" presentation in the bass overall, but that the HD800 has notably more extension and more dynamic range across the sub-bass to upper bass. I find it a cleaner and more exciting presentation overall, but  I do sometimes hanker for the lovely timbre the HE-500 bass exhibits with certain kick drums. 

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