Head-Fi.org › Forums › Summit-Fi (High-End Audio) › High-end Audio Forum › The (new) HD800 Impressions Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

The (new) HD800 Impressions Thread - Page 258

post #3856 of 18734
Quote:
Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

Was it your or Prepo (sorry lol) that used to comment on the large differences with the Soloist on different settings?

 

Not me.  I give out free /facepalm to anyone who uses a stepped attenuator at high gain :P  It's a nuisance at unity gain, never mind 8x.


Edited by Solude - 7/20/13 at 9:44am
post #3857 of 18734
Can someone explain how internal gain could affect the sound "quality?" It shouldn't, right?
post #3858 of 18734
I cant explain but it definitely affect sound signature for bcl.
Maybe it increases voltage swing to the headphone?
It even change dynamic and signature on my Mustang. I cant believe you guys cant hear the difference.
post #3859 of 18734

I've read that volume is basically voltage gain, so in that respect higher gain = more voltage = more power to the headphones! Of course, only headphones that like a lot of voltage will benefit and the HD800's are defo one of those. 

post #3860 of 18734
More voltage would only benefit if there was insufficient voltage before. But at any given listening volume, the voltage should be the same - the only difference should be the position of the volume knob AFAIK.
post #3861 of 18734

Yeah that makes sense. Higher gain just means less on the volume pot, but the same voltage. Just like a lower gain but higher on the volume pot - same difference. The only benefit here is that some volume pots work better when they are set quite high, so a lower gain is going to be preferred in that case. But that is more for balance I think.

 

 

hmmmm... C'mon Solude we want answers! ;) 

post #3862 of 18734

High gain doesn't change maximum power UNLESS the gain is too low to clip the amp.  Think gas pedal and red line on the RPM gauge.  Once you drop the pedal far enough in neutral to bury the needle, going further doesn't magically add RPM range.  Same with gain and amps.  High gain does raise the noise floor though and makes stepped attenuators are real chore ;)  Particularly no fun on tube amps if they are micro-phonic.

post #3863 of 18734
Quote:
Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

Not me.  Never heard the Soloist..biggrin.gif

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

Not me.  I give out free /facepalm to anyone who uses a stepped attenuator at high gain :P  It's a nuisance at unity gain, never mind 8x.

 

*airball* Coulda swore...

 

-Daniel

post #3864 of 18734
If i set lowest gain, the siund will be very flat, less bass but huge detail. If i set higher gain, more kick on every notes (think piano, drums, human voice rise peak, etc) but less detail and definitely warmer. The more i inceease the gain, the more the same effect increases.

I dont say higher gain increases power, but it change the amp and phone behaviour (hence signature) with slightly higher voltage sent to the phone. I usually set to medium as the low gain is too boring and the highest gain sacrifices too much detail.
post #3865 of 18734
Maybe a dumb question, but where do you go on Sennheiser's website to get the frequency response graph for your pair of HD800s? I've been looking around on there and can't seem to find it.
post #3866 of 18734
From decware line, which one do you think sounds better for hd800, csp2+ or taboo? i read thag taboo is more for planar?
post #3867 of 18734
Quote:
Originally Posted by KraftD1 View Post

Maybe a dumb question, but where do you go on Sennheiser's website to get the frequency response graph for your pair of HD800s? I've been looking around on there and can't seem to find it.

You simply need to register your product and request it.

 

USA link: http://reg.sennheiserusa.com/

 

Global (I think?) link: http://en-de.sennheiser.com/service-support/services/register-your-product

post #3868 of 18734
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBull View Post

From decware line, which one do you think sounds better for hd800, csp2+ or taboo? i read thag taboo is more for planar?

 

The Taboo MK3 is superb driving both the HD800s and LCD-3s. Yes, he markets it for planars, but make no mistake. It's outstanding with the HD800s. It's natural and refined, but it does some mean bass when it's called for and it's free of grain and very transparent to the tubes you use and DAC.

 

The CSP2+ doesn't do planars, but many people use it hapily with the HD800s. I've not heard it.


Edited by negura - 7/21/13 at 3:06am
post #3869 of 18734
Thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jd007 View Post

You simply need to register your product and request it.

USA link: http://reg.sennheiserusa.com/


Global (I think?) link: http://en-de.sennheiser.com/service-support/services/register-your-product
post #3870 of 18734

Hello,

 

I just got a chance to try out the HD-800 at a local Los Angeles head-fi meet today.

 

I was afraid the treble would be a bit irritating, as some have written in the forums (though I never personally took those claims completely seriously), and although I might have noticed it at first, listening to the headphones more and more made me believe the issue was a tad bit overblown.

 

That said, my initial overall impression of the HD-800 wasn't that great. I liked the Beyer T-1 a little bit better, at first. But as I got around to listening to all the (major) headphones at the meet, I noticed they all missed something, that I remembered some other headphone (which I eventually realized was the HD-800) had. And that was, as you guessed it, the sound-stage.

 

After realizing the super-natural sound-stage of the HD-800, it really was difficult going back to any other headphone. Including the LCD3, and the Fostex TH-900 that were there. The sound-stage of the HD-800 just felt so... normal, but I mean that in a good way. Because to me, all the other headphones sounded non-normal. I know all the cliches of headphones, of any model and manufacturer, making it seem like you're "there in the studio", or "right next to the instruments", but they were all really true with the HD-800.

 

And the sound signature was another thing that I got really accustomed to. It felt super, super flat, and it brought me back memories of a pair of studio monitors I had a few years ago. Just completely flat, which was indeed, what I was looking for in a headphone just a few months ago (during which I ended up purchasing the HD-650 at the time).

 

After realizing the flat signature, the Fostex TH-900 sounded too "friendly" to me. As if it was specifically tuned to appeal to the masses, rather than going for accurate sound reproduction.

 

So, yea... thanks to the head-fi meet, I've decided on the HD-800 as my future headphone. It will take a while, but maybe at some point, I'll be able to write in this thread again as a new owner!


Edited by fuzzybaffy - 7/21/13 at 4:21am
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: High-end Audio Forum
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Summit-Fi (High-End Audio) › High-end Audio Forum › The (new) HD800 Impressions Thread