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Originally Posted by kn19h7 View Post

The csd of srh940 actually can be also read as high treble presence (high peak, slower decay) without being covered by mids/bass (which the hd800 has, in contrast). I wouldn't say its better, some may like, some may not. Btw the bass response of hd800 definitely looks and sounds better to me

I've listened to some piano on the srh940, which is supposed bass lite to avoid the supposed muddiness in the region below 500 hz. I found it's a delight to listen, it's relatively clean, BUT the hd800 is much more precise, with each note being very well defined.

 

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. (But mind you, I just don't like how the srh940 sounds...)

 I'm not anymore experimenting the skull crushing treble spike,  I got when I listened the srh940 for the first time, so you might have in mind  something quite different.

 

By the way, what you think of the mdr sony mdr-z1000 (it's on your profile) . It measure consistently bad everywhere, in particular the csd that looks like an exageration of the srh940 (similar flaws, but worse). I'm wondering how it could have fans , according to the measurements.


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 7/19/13 at 8:40pm
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Posting my last last eq, for the hd800.

I was discouraged from eq-ing anything in the bass region, or from using linear phase,

so here's the final result:

 

 

 

Difference with original sound:

- with lot of stuff it sounds same than no eq.

- reduce potential sibilance I noticed in some records.

- the image seems more "focused".

- more relaxing sound overall.

post #3843 of 18736
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

I've listened to some piano on the srh940, which is supposed bass lite to avoid the supposed muddiness in the region below 500 hz. I found it's a delight to listen, it's relatively clean, BUT the hd800 is much more precise, with each note being very well defined.

 

 I'm not anymore experimenting the skull crushing treble spike,  I got when I listened the srh940 for the first time, so you might have in mind  something quite different.

 

By the way, what you think of the mdr sony mdr-z1000 (it's on your profile) . It measure consistently bad everywhere, in particular the csd that looks like an exageration of the srh940 (similar flaws, but worse). I'm wondering how it could have fans , according to the measurements.

 

Lolz.

 

Oh, and D2000 bass=blOOOAAATTTed.

 

-Daniel

post #3844 of 18736
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

Lol.
You know that louder sounds often better ?

It's not just about louder, my friend, it also add KICK to the sound
post #3845 of 18736
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

Lolz.

Oh, and D2000 bass=blOOOAAATTTed.

-Daniel

There's no better word for it.
post #3846 of 18736
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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post


It's not just about louder, my friend, it also add KICK to the sound


Louder sounds better in every way (don't ask me why, but the loudness war appeared because of this). .If you want to do a serious comparison , you must compare at same volume level.

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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

 

Lolz.

 

Oh, and D2000 bass=blOOOAAATTTed.

 

-Daniel


Well my guess , is that some bloat could be rewarding.

I'm not sure everyone is craving for a very controlled bass.

At least when it's bloated... well it's obvious.

post #3848 of 18736

Get a better amp.

 

-Daniel

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post


Louder sounds better in every way (don't ask me why, but the loudness war appeared because of this). .If you want to do a serious comparison , you must compare at same volume level.

Obviously, what I meant was, at the same level, changing the gain in bcl increase dynamic, not only volume. When you try yourself you will understand what I mean.
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

 I'm not anymore experimenting the skull crushing treble spike,  I got when I listened the srh940 for the first time, so you might have in mind  something quite different.

 

By the way, what you think of the mdr sony mdr-z1000 (it's on your profile) . It measure consistently bad everywhere, in particular the csd that looks like an exageration of the srh940 (similar flaws, but worse). I'm wondering how it could have fans , according to the measurements.

So you're implying the srh940 has been revised? Hmm...

 

Well, they don't look that similar to me actually. The srh940's one is generally a upping slope towards 5k followed by a slight drop and then a spike at 10k, while for z1000 there are several ups and downs (for example, ~2k is much stronger on z1000). While the ~10k part on z1000 peaks high and lasts long, the ~5k part is very weak and lasts short, so overall the treble isn't that ear piercing. And also the <500hz part is stronger and stays more stable on z1000, which may help in covering the ~10k part.

 

Music actually sounds quite different (from my other headphones like hd800 and a2000x) on the z1000 perhaps due to the big drop near 5k, it has a quite unique sonic character or just coloration which I happened to like. Currently using it in office with cowon j3, also considering replace it with a yamaha-mt220 though. As a result of very extensive use (>5hrs per day for about 2yrs), my z1000 looks very old now...

 

 

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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post


Obviously, what I meant was, at the same level, changing the gain in bcl increase dynamic, not only volume. When you try yourself you will understand what I mean.

I also think that the bcl sounds quite different on 0db and 10db gains, never bothered enough to do a blind test though.


Edited by kn19h7 - 7/20/13 at 12:32am
post #3851 of 18736
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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post

Obviously, what I meant was, at the same level, changing the gain in bcl increase dynamic, not only volume. When you try yourself you will understand what I mean.

 

No just no.  Changing the feedback 10dB when dealing with something that has 100,000x gain... not noticeable if properly level matched with a metre.  Even on something like the GS-X which has an open loop gain of about 30x, changing the feedback isn't noticeable.

post #3852 of 18736
Yes solude, it has noticable more dynamic with sacrifice of detail, but definitely for sure, dynamic is increase.
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Interesting.  What are you using to level match?

post #3854 of 18736
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

No just no.  Changing the feedback 10dB when dealing with something that has 100,000x gain... not noticeable if properly level matched with a metre.  Even on something like the GS-X which has an open loop gain of about 30x, changing the feedback isn't noticeable.

I've noticed differences with other amps as well-level matched with a $30 spl meter. :p

 

Was it your or Prepo (sorry lol) that used to comment on the large differences with the Soloist on different settings?

 

-Daniel

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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

I've noticed differences with other amps as well-level matched with a $30 spl meter. :p

 

Was it your or Prepo (sorry lol) that used to comment on the large differences with the Soloist on different settings?

 

-Daniel

 

Not me.  Never heard the Soloist..biggrin.gif

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