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post #3811 of 19998
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

With the right amp the bass on the HD800's just rocks basshead.gif

If you ever come up to Birmingham let me know and maybe you could have a listen.

Totally agree. With Leben, the bass is at the same level as lcd2.1
post #3812 of 19998
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

 

With the right amp the bass on the HD800's just rocks basshead.gif

 

The HD800 has great bass quality, but leaves more bass quantity to be desired.

post #3813 of 19998

I'm far from a bass head.  But the HD800s on the GS-X mk2 provides the right amount of bass for me.  I don't desire more in any of my listening sessions.  I'll get "BASS" fatigue at times with the LCD-3s and the TH900s.  The HD800s are just right and the HE-6 are a cut above just right = perfect.  To my ears..

post #3814 of 19998
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post

 

The HD800 has great bass quality, but leaves more bass quantity to be desired.


And  that's whole point. Most people don't enjoy "quality bass", when there's  not enough.

I'd even say that most people favor quantity over quality in the bass region.

The srh940 is supposed to have a more "punchy bass" than the srh840, but people prefer the srh840 because it has more bass.

From what I've understood the bass of XB500 is not exactely punchy, but some bass head like it.

post #3815 of 19998

A lot of it us going to come down to listening volume.  At higher volume the amount of bass needed drops.  From the HE-6 thread I get the impression prep listens at quite high levels.

 

For an example we can compare apples to apples... with the HD800/GS-X mk2/PWD2, I listened on low gain right at the 12 o'clock mark.  That was high mark, usually though I'd listen 2-4 notches down from there.  In that arrangement where do you fall prep?

post #3816 of 19998
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

A lot of it us going to come down to listening volume.  At higher volume the amount of bass needed drops.  From the HE-6 thread I get the impression prep listens at quite high levels.

 

For an example we can compare apples to apples... with the HD800/GS-X mk2/PWD2, I listened on low gain right at the 12 o'clock mark.  That was high mark, usually though I'd listen 2-4 notches down from there.  In that arrangement where do you fall prep?

 

Correct, I like to turn it up a bit.  With that same setup, I'll go with the high gain at around the 10 o'clock mark..  

 

On my HE-6 / F1J rig I went with the 4x gain resisters in my pre amp.  Still at around the 10 o'clock mark with that as well.

post #3817 of 19998
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post

 

The HD800 has great bass quality, but leaves more bass quantity to be desired.

 

No, no problems with bass quantity here.

Their are phones with a fuller bass but many of these don't have the bass control that the HD800's have and the 'fuller' or greater quantilty you perceive comes from less control and definition.

This control can give the impression of less 'quantity' but feed the HD800's with a quality source and use a quality amp then the bass quantity takes a massive leap forward.

post #3818 of 19998
SMV - Lil'Victa. Listen to this and tell me the HD800 lacks bass quantity.
post #3819 of 19998
Quantity and quality all at the same time. Reminds me how great the HD800s are! Not that I ever need reminding smily_headphones1.gif
post #3820 of 19998
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

 

No, no problems with bass quantity here.

Their are phones with a fuller bass but many of these don't have the bass control that the HD800's have and the 'fuller' or greater quantilty you perceive comes from less control and definition.

There are other headphone with punchy bass, and you won't see that any people complain that they lack bass.

I think the hd800 need more sub bass, so that the bass overall feel more present.

post #3821 of 19998
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

There are other headphone with punchy bass, and you won't see that any people complain that they lack bass.

I think the hd800 need more sub bass, so that the bass overall feel more present.

 

Give some examples of the other headphones your talking about.

post #3822 of 19998
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

There are other headphone with punchy bass, and you won't see that any people complain that they lack bass.

I think the hd800 need more sub bass, so that the bass overall feel more present.

 

I have read many times people saying that Grado's (most of them anyway) lack bass, yet they are very 'punchy'

 

When I put on a bass heavy track the HD800's are only a smidgen less in the sub bass than the LCD2.2's & HE6's with the trade off being quicker, tighter bass (with regards the LCD's particularly).

It's a trade off I am very happy to live with.  wink_face.gif

 

I also find the HD800's eye blinkingly punchy when the music call for it.


Edited by nigeljames - 7/19/13 at 7:16am
post #3823 of 19998
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post

 

The HD800 has great bass quality, but leaves more bass quantity to be desired.

You should try the new Sophia Electric in the ZDSE-that's the first tube I used that put some bass 'kick' in my HD800s that satisfied me with rock/pop music. Worth a shot, and a huge step up over the Brimar and NOS tung sol black round that I used as well...

 

-Daniel

post #3824 of 19998
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

Give some examples of the other headphones your talking about.

Let's make a hd800 , d2000 comparison.

 

If I look at the ratings at golden ear,

you have :

treble relative to midrange: 5 (imply very bright)

bass relative to midrange: 0 (right amount of bass)

bass texture: 4 (punchy, but not the punchiest headphone)

http://en.goldenears.net/4326

 

Compared to the denon D2000:

treble relative to midrange: 1 (slight treble emphasis)

bass relative to midrange: 2 (a moderate bass emphasis)

treble + bass emphasis = slight V signature

bass texture: 5 (punchier than the HD800, then).

http://en.goldenears.net/4170

 

I don't see much people complaining of the d2000 bass, which according golden ear ,

have a punchier bass than the hd800, and a moderate bass emphasis.

 

Off course you could criticize the golden ear rating, but I think they provide a great tool

to compare headphone, especially if you can't try them , before you buy them.

post #3825 of 19998

We're going to have many of the "big boy" HD800 amps at tomorrow's LA meet along with a large variety of aftermarket HD800 cables. My Stratus is going to be sitting next to the new ALO Studio Six. Check out our impressions thread starting tomorrow.

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