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post #3811 of 14178

I heard the strattus w/ it's stock tubes which sounded good and w/ some other expensive tubes that sounded to bright for the hd800s. I'm at a point where i need to figure out what my next upgrade is which leads me to this question to you guys. Is the zana duex better than the hdvd800 and stratus? I already have a dac-100 which I will never get rid of unless I get a dad-80 but I'm not happy w/ the amp section on it. I love the bass that the hdvd800 has but can't say much more because it was fresh out the box and i've never heard the zana duex.

post #3812 of 14178
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Excellent article and very informative.

No worries. I found it a great explanation too.

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Quick correction, the comparison is between the Stratus and current production run 2A3 w/ high freq heaters.  The 2A3x4, Leviathon is a whole other beast.  Current 2A3 is $2800 and Leviathon I thought was ~$3500 plus transformers... which could drag it into the $5000+ range depending on your options.  Could be wrong about the Levi it's been a while since I browsed the thread once the price tag was announced, my jaw dropped and my wallet curled up into fetal position, prompting me to run, run away :D

Yes it's clear that the compaison is between the original 2A3 with the BA AC heaters, making it similar (but not there yet) to what the 2A3x4 will be. The Levi is actually $3800+ transformers (I'm one of maybe 5 who opted in early for some Tangos). Reality is-the 2A3x4 will get scarily close to the Levi in my estimation, and essentially came about as an offshoot of the Leviathan project. Not sure how many of the original 10 EC 2A3x4's are called for yet, but email Craig before they are gone at that initial price point.

 

-Daniel

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I am running my HD800 from the Lehmann Black Cube Liner. During the Sennheiser HD800 launch event in Singapore, the Lehmann Black Cube Linear amplifier was chosen to be the “official” amplifier for auditioning sessions. But I am missing the bass. Listening to some songs through speakers and then through the HD800 the difference is immediately perceptible. Everything is so tame on the HD800, there is no fun factor. I listened to Sennheiser Amperior and those were fun headphones. I wish the HD800 had the same punchy bass as the Amperior. The bass on HD800 is very thin. Just one thing its lacking in my opinion. Technically I believe it to be the best headphone but not a fun headphone.  

 

With the right amp the bass on the HD800's just rocks basshead.gif

 

If you ever come up to Birmingham let me know and maybe you could have a listen.

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Reality is-the 2A3x4 will get scarily close to the Levi in my estimation, and essentially came about as an offshoot of the Leviathan project.

 

Thanks for this.  I was under the impression it was the same product, just new name.

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With the right amp the bass on the HD800's just rocks basshead.gif

If you ever come up to Birmingham let me know and maybe you could have a listen.

Totally agree. With Leben, the bass is at the same level as lcd2.1
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With the right amp the bass on the HD800's just rocks basshead.gif

 

The HD800 has great bass quality, but leaves more bass quantity to be desired.

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I'm far from a bass head.  But the HD800s on the GS-X mk2 provides the right amount of bass for me.  I don't desire more in any of my listening sessions.  I'll get "BASS" fatigue at times with the LCD-3s and the TH900s.  The HD800s are just right and the HE-6 are a cut above just right = perfect.  To my ears..

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The HD800 has great bass quality, but leaves more bass quantity to be desired.


And  that's whole point. Most people don't enjoy "quality bass", when there's  not enough.

I'd even say that most people favor quantity over quality in the bass region.

The srh940 is supposed to have a more "punchy bass" than the srh840, but people prefer the srh840 because it has more bass.

From what I've understood the bass of XB500 is not exactely punchy, but some bass head like it.

post #3820 of 14178

A lot of it us going to come down to listening volume.  At higher volume the amount of bass needed drops.  From the HE-6 thread I get the impression prep listens at quite high levels.

 

For an example we can compare apples to apples... with the HD800/GS-X mk2/PWD2, I listened on low gain right at the 12 o'clock mark.  That was high mark, usually though I'd listen 2-4 notches down from there.  In that arrangement where do you fall prep?

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A lot of it us going to come down to listening volume.  At higher volume the amount of bass needed drops.  From the HE-6 thread I get the impression prep listens at quite high levels.

 

For an example we can compare apples to apples... with the HD800/GS-X mk2/PWD2, I listened on low gain right at the 12 o'clock mark.  That was high mark, usually though I'd listen 2-4 notches down from there.  In that arrangement where do you fall prep?

 

Correct, I like to turn it up a bit.  With that same setup, I'll go with the high gain at around the 10 o'clock mark..  

 

On my HE-6 / F1J rig I went with the 4x gain resisters in my pre amp.  Still at around the 10 o'clock mark with that as well.

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The HD800 has great bass quality, but leaves more bass quantity to be desired.

 

No, no problems with bass quantity here.

Their are phones with a fuller bass but many of these don't have the bass control that the HD800's have and the 'fuller' or greater quantilty you perceive comes from less control and definition.

This control can give the impression of less 'quantity' but feed the HD800's with a quality source and use a quality amp then the bass quantity takes a massive leap forward.

post #3823 of 14178
SMV - Lil'Victa. Listen to this and tell me the HD800 lacks bass quantity.
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Quantity and quality all at the same time. Reminds me how great the HD800s are! Not that I ever need reminding smily_headphones1.gif
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No, no problems with bass quantity here.

Their are phones with a fuller bass but many of these don't have the bass control that the HD800's have and the 'fuller' or greater quantilty you perceive comes from less control and definition.

There are other headphone with punchy bass, and you won't see that any people complain that they lack bass.

I think the hd800 need more sub bass, so that the bass overall feel more present.

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