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post #3706 of 18561
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

Personally I think 'soul' or 'emotion' should come from the music not the  phones.
IMO the HD800's do a very good job of letting the soul and emotion through unimpeded, if it's there in the first place.

+1
I agree with your words.
post #3707 of 18561
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

 

Personally I think 'soul' or 'emotion' should come from the music not the  phones.

IMO the HD800's do a very good job of letting the soul and emotion through unimpeded, if it's there in the first place.

 

Yup.  I agree with this 100%

post #3708 of 18561
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

 

Personally I think 'soul' or 'emotion' should come from the music not the  phones.

I think that Tyll meant , is that the hd800 suck out the soul from the music ( I guess he tried the same musical stuff from one headphone to another),

but ultimately the "soul"  or "emotion" is a combination of both headphone & music.

post #3709 of 18561
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

I think that Tyll meant , is that the hd800 suck out the soul from the music ( I guess he tried the same musical stuff from one headphone to another),

but ultimately the "soul"  or "emotion" is a combination of both headphone & music.

 

The HD800 is not a cold, distant headphone so I can't see how the HD800's could 'suck the soul' out of the music. I have found it so anyway.

 

Maybe Tyll just likes added color to his music, and that's fair enough.

post #3710 of 18561
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post
Maybe Tyll just likes added color to his music, and that's fair enough.

Actually the hd800 doesn't seduce everyone.
 I've noticed some debates, or people expressing distastes.

Few relevant thread:

 

The HD800 divide

Why does the HD800 cause such polarizing opinions....

Got the HD800....the cynic is now speechless

A Twisted Review: HD800's Calculative, Clinical and Sterile Soul

 

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I can't see how the HD800's could 'suck the soul' out of the music.

Some people stated before (in this thread) that the hd800 is unbelievably relaxing to listen,

but what is relaxing for some is actually boring for others (and this   trait, I  found it in  the lower hd595).


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 7/16/13 at 5:09am
post #3711 of 18561
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

Actually the hd800 doesn't seduce everyone.
 I've noticed some debates, or people expressing distastes.

Few relevant thread:

 

The HD800 divide

Why does the HD800 cause such polarizing opinions....

Got the HD800....the cynic is now speechless

A Twisted Review: HD800's Calculative, Clinical and Sterile Soul

 

Some people stated before that the hd800 is unbelievably relaxing to listen,

but what is relaxing for some is actually boring for others (and this   trait, I  found it in  the lower hd595).

 

Is not that the case for ALL headphones. Pick an headphone, any headphone, and then look for negative comments about that headphone, it won't take you long to find them.

 

The only headphone that I have heard that 'sucked the soul' or put another way the 'life' out of music was the HD650's.

post #3712 of 18561
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

 

Is not that the case for ALL headphones. Pick an headphone, any headphone, and then look for negative comments about that headphone, it won't take you long to find them.

You are probably right , but it's interesting to see if the negative comments follow a pattern. And for the hd800, "lack of soul' is part of the pattern, I'm not inventing anything,  nor Tyll.

Now if you ask for a headphone without much negative comments, just look at the discontinued Denon line (D7000, D5000, D2000)

It's seem that the only complain were some recessed mids, or problem with built quality, but most people find them enjoyable, if not the most enjoyable (well, this was before the introduction of some hifiman models, that got success too).

In a local store, the D5000  was sold at almost the same price as the hd800; but if there wasn't a big problem with the price of the D5000, I  would have taken the D5000  without a doubt (especially if you consider, that I wanted to avoid anything that sound slightly similar to  my lower hd595, i.e between relaxing & boring).

post #3713 of 18561
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

 

Is not that the case for ALL headphones. Pick an headphone, any headphone, and then look for negative comments about that headphone, it won't take you long to find them.

 

The only headphone that I have heard that 'sucked the soul' or put another way the 'life' out of music was the HD650's.


Are you kidding? Funny how this hobby is so subjective because I personally think the HD 650 is the exact opposite. The luscious warmth of the 650s is so euphonic and musical it's almost as if there's a tiny James Brown in each ear cup whispering sweet nothings that entwine with the music. wink.gif

post #3714 of 18561

Why don't you sell your HD800 extrabig?

post #3715 of 18561
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Originally Posted by rgs9200m View Post

Why don't you keep your amp for now and try a pair of TH900s? I think that would be a logical step for maybe state-of-the-art phones. 

Once you hear them, then maybe you can do an amp upgrade. The 009s can be a bit of an acquired taste (do some careful reading in the last few months here).

Don't worry I've heard the 009. No dynamics or orthos really interest me and the TH900 isn't for me. The logical step up from the HD800 would be the SR009 although not quite sure if I want to sell the HD800 yet. 

post #3716 of 18561

I find 800 and sr009 sound is quite different.  Don't you think?

post #3717 of 18561
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Originally Posted by scolaiw View Post


Are you kidding? Funny how this hobby is so subjective because I personally think the HD 650 is the exact opposite. The luscious warmth of the 650s is so euphonic and musical it's almost as if there's a tiny James Brown in each ear cup whispering sweet nothings that entwine with the music. wink.gif

 

It's also slow, plodding, lifeless, lethargic and quite simply boring. For the music I listen to it was suicidal biggrin.gif

 

But that's for another thread!

post #3718 of 18561
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Originally Posted by RedBull View Post

Why don't you sell your HD800 extrabig?

Not so obvious where I live; but I don't dislike them.

Anyways, regarding my lasts posts,  I was surprised when I've seen Tyll stating in the video that he found the hd800 "soulless", while he has a  raving review at innerfidelity (the hd800 is even in his wall of fame). But somehow this make sense to me : lot of reviewers raving about the hd800;  but for everyday music enjoyment, it's not necessarily the hd800 they'd pick up first.


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 7/16/13 at 7:05am
post #3719 of 18561
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Originally Posted by nigeljames View Post

It's also slow, plodding, lifeless, lethargic and quite simply boring. For the music I listen to it was suicidal biggrin.gif

 

But that's for another thread!


But that's just how it is isn't it? Just as this is an HD 800 appreciation thread, there are HD 800 depreciation threads. The headphone stays the same, it's our varying opinions that are different and that's why this is such a great hobby. biggrin.gif

post #3720 of 18561

I agree 800 is not so ideal for pop like Debbie Gibson and alike, but is soulful for Jazz, classical and MOVIES ...  listening to Band of Brothers last night was very immersive experience like I am in the middle of the war scene, fantastic.

It's a very specialized headphone.

I find 800 is very nice to listen soft not at loud level whereas LCD 2.1 I have to listen a bit louder.

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