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post #3676 of 15797
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post #3677 of 15797
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Eh I have a similar problem. I have a noisy portable air conditioner, and it's not so easy to appreciate the high end sound of hd800 with background noise.

A bit frustrating.

 

 

Here in Asia(Malaysia) its impossible to live without A.C or a fan running with windows wide open.. The heat is ridiculous at times.. I had to buy the quietest fan i could find to better enjoy the HD800s.... First. World. Problems. indeed... lol 

post #3678 of 15797

If we had a ceiling fan it would buy me more time but I don't think the landlord would like that. This house was built in 1890 :/

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Is HD800 brighter than Beyerdynamic T1 ?
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Is HD800 brighter than Beyerdynamic T1 ?

if what u mean by treble...my answer is NO. The HD800 has a warmer sound (noticeable in the MIDS and the LOWS). I would say is a typical of Sennheiser house sound with a much refinement. The HIGHS is more smooth and less zizzy IMO, but the T1 is not harsh at all, it just more neutral and more cleaner sounding and that what makes the T1 sounded more treble than HD800. But the T1 has more body to sound, more meaty presentation IMO. The BASS i think HD800 has a softer and deeper, but the T1 has more quantity of it and hit harder. Both are quite good. I can not say which one better. Is more like to personal preference. But if you like a neutral sounding, extreme detail and best sound image...i think should try the T1. The HD800 has a wider soundstage, but i do feel sometimes they just to wide at a time, luckily, the HD800 has a bit of that warmer side, so the sound somehow is just so "unbelievable" relaxing. Listening to HD800 is like you are in real live concert, inside the building...while the the T1 is like more private, when you are in the studio room, just you, the singer and the band and you can clearly hear and picture every single sound that come out -- is very intimate sounding IMO.

post #3681 of 15797
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if what u mean by treble...my answer is NO. The HD800 has a warmer sound (noticeable in the MIDS and the LOWS). I would say is a typical of Sennheiser house sound with a much refinement. The HIGHS is more smooth and less zizzy IMO, but the T1 is not harsh at all, it just more neutral and more cleaner sounding and that what makes the T1 sounded more treble than HD800. But the T1 has more body to sound, more meaty presentation IMO. The BASS i think HD800 has a softer and deeper, but the T1 has more quantity of it and hit harder. Both are quite good. I can not say which one better. Is more like to personal preference. But if you like a neutral sounding, extreme detail and best sound image...i think should try the T1. The HD800 has a wider soundstage, but i do feel sometimes they just to wide at a time, luckily, the HD800 has a bit of that warmer side, so the sound somehow is just so "unbelievable" relaxing. Listening to HD800 is like you are in real live concert, inside the building...while the the T1 is like more private, when you are in the studio room, just you, the singer and the band and you can clearly hear and picture every single sound that come out -- is very intimate sounding IMO.

 

+1

 

i love my T1 alot, but i like hd 800 alot too.

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I received my new HD 800 just a couple hours ago - good times!  I was so excited I sneakily went home from work for a bit of a listen.  Getting the Sennheisers was a bit of a gamble for me as I generally prefer warm headphones (I love my HE-500s dearly).  But rather than getting another ortho, I thought the HD 800 would be a more interesting companion.  Having the possibility to enjoy quite different sound characteristics with more soundstage and detail appealed to me.

 

I only listened for a bit today, but was impressed.  As expected, a lot of the heavy rock and metal I listen to is slightly grating on the HD 800.  But when I put on acoustic music I was instantly impressed with the detail and space.  Some rock, such as Rush, also sounded very good straight away.

 

This is all through my Violectric stack, which I believe is regarded as a good match for the HD 800.  Can't wait for my brain to start burning in (and for my Decware Taboo MKIII to arrive).  :)

post #3683 of 15797
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I received my new HD 800 just a couple hours ago - good times!  I was so excited I sneakily went home from work for a bit of a listen.  Getting the Sennheisers was a bit of a gamble for me as I generally prefer warm headphones (I love my HE-500s dearly).  But rather than getting another ortho, I thought the HD 800 would be a more interesting companion.  Having the possibility to enjoy quite different sound characteristics with more soundstage and detail appealed to me.

I only listened for a bit today, but was impressed.  As expected, a lot of the heavy rock and metal I listen to is slightly grating on the HD 800.  But when I put on acoustic music I was instantly impressed with the detail and space.  Some rock, such as Rush, also sounded very good straight away.

This is all through my Violectric stack, which I believe is regarded as a good match for the HD 800.  Can't wait for my brain to start burning in (and for my Decware Taboo MKIII to arrive).  smily_headphones1.gif

At this point, with my mods and my system I can listen to badly recorded heavy metal and it sounds fine, cannibal corpse make them suffer sounds super tight but not grating at all. They do wonders for really technical, fast metal genres. Doom metal also sounds great, not only due to the expansive soundstage, but also the fantastic dynamic range of the HD800. I have never looked back.

What I do have an issue with is MP3 recordings, MP3 makes the treble splashy, distorted and grating, [mp3] smears it all over the place. HD800's are transparent and neutral, if there are issues with recordings, file format or equipment choices they will let you know. My approach is to use this information to sort out the problems in my system, like most recently, cable routing and SPDIF cable length.
post #3684 of 15797
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My approach is to use this information to sort out the problems in my system, like most recently, cable routing and SPDIF cable length.

Care to expand further your finding in regards to cable length...
Is it something to do with jitter?
Edited by jsgraha - 7/15/13 at 7:33am
post #3685 of 15797
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Originally Posted by Kendoji View Post

 

I only listened for a bit today, but was impressed.  As expected, a lot of the heavy rock and metal I listen to is slightly grating on the HD 800.  But when I put on acoustic music I was instantly impressed with the detail and space. 

 

Well, I've been classifying the different metal music genres, once I've noticed that some metal stuff works better than other on the hd800 (or perhaps it's just my taste).

 

Anyways, what about Trash Metal  on the Hd800  ?

I don't think that trash metal is called this way because it's garbage, but according to wikipedia :

"Thrash metal is a subgenre of heavy metal music, one of the extreme metal subgenres that is characterised by high speed riffing and aggression."

 

So what do you think of trash metal stuff on the hd800 ?

 

Here's a list of popular "trash metal" albums , if this can help:

http://www.last.fm/tag/thrash%20metal/albums

post #3686 of 15797
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

 

Well, I've been classifying the different metal music genres, once I've noticed that some metal stuff works better than other on the hd800 (or perhaps it's just my taste).

 

Anyways, what about Trash Metal  on the Hd800  ?

I don't think that trash metal is called this way because it's garbage, but according to wikipedia :

"Thrash metal is a subgenre of heavy metal music, one of the extreme metal subgenres that is characterised by high speed riffing and aggression."

 

So what do you think of trash metal stuff on the hd800 ?

 

Here's a list of popular "trash metal" albums , if this can help:

http://www.last.fm/tag/thrash%20metal/albums

 

 

Modern metal has a lot of sub-genres and the results with the HD800s vary. I will try to summarize a few of them in terms of synergy imo. Btw it's Thrash metal, with an added H. 

 

- Heavy, thrash metal. Works well. Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth Iron Maiden etc.

- Symphonic gothic/power metal. Excellent. A lot of classical elements which are a strength with the HD800s. Bands like Theatre of Tragedy, Nightwish, Therion, Sirenia, etc etc. Brilliant combination.

- Symhonic black metal. Bands like Dimmu Borgir. A bit too much of a good thing with the HD800s with the details and on the aggressiveness front. Unless you like that combination, this is Audeze territory. 

- Black, Death metal. Same as above, I find this is overkill with the HD800s. Too much attention to detail. To note is that really good black metal recordings are somewhat rare and the HD800s are not forgiving headphones. Some exceptions apply. Rotting Christ later albums are amazing on the HD800s.

- Doom metal. Slower than the above, works great.

- Progressive metal/rock. Anathema, Dream Theater, Tool. Great synergy. At least the first half of the song is slow and clean. :) And they have songs with accoustical instruments and that's a HD800s strength.

 

Also to be noted is that many bands oscillate accross genres so this is just to give an indication, and not trying to be too thorough.


Edited by negura - 7/15/13 at 8:46am
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Originally Posted by negura View Post

 

 

Modern metal has a lot of sub-genres and the results with the HD800s vary. I will try to summarize a few of them in terms of synergy imo. Btw it's Thrash metal, with an added H. 

 

- Heavy, thrash metal. Works well. Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth Iron Maiden etc.

- Symphonic gothic/power metal. Excellent. A lot of classical elements which are a strength with the HD800s. Bands like Theatre of Tragedy, Nightwish, Therion, Sirenia, etc etc. Brilliant combination.

- Symhonic black metal. Bands like Dimmu Borgir. A bit too aggresive, Audeze territory. To note is that really good black metal recordings are somewhat rare. Exceptions apply. Rotting Christ later albums are amazing on the HD800s.

- Black, Death metal. Same as above, I find this way too agressive with the HD800s.

- Doom metal. Slower than the above, works great.

 

Well, I'm mostly interested by "extreme metal", which is mostly categorized in black, death, doom, thrash .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_metal

 

I  don't care much of "symphonic related" metal. Merely Apocalyptica, because I was interested in instrumental cover of metallica songs.

 

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- Heavy, thrash metal. Works well. Metallica, Slayer, Megadeth Iron Maiden etc.

 

I'd think that thrash metal, lacks the necessary energy/ aggressivity on the hd800.

Listening to slayer "reign in blood" , it's almost sounds bland to me.

Although I  don't appreciate particularly  the genre.

 

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- Black, Death metal. Same as above, I find this way too agressive with the HD800s.

Finally some aggressivity with the hd800, I  can't complain.

I  like black metal especially, I'm less  familiar with death.

 

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- Doom metal. Slower than the above, works great.

The less problematic genre on the hd800, unleess you listen to stuff that are too much loudness compressed.

The album dopethrone, by electric wizzard which is supposed to be a classic, is just too painful to listen, because of the squashed dynamics.

 

I like black + doom , with artists like Deinonychus.


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 7/15/13 at 8:59am
post #3688 of 15797
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Originally Posted by Kendoji View Post

I received my new HD 800 just a couple hours ago - good times!  I was so excited I sneakily went home from work for a bit of a listen.  Getting the Sennheisers was a bit of a gamble for me as I generally prefer warm headphones (I love my HE-500s dearly).  But rather than getting another ortho, I thought the HD 800 would be a more interesting companion.  Having the possibility to enjoy quite different sound characteristics with more soundstage and detail appealed to me.

 

I only listened for a bit today, but was impressed.  As expected, a lot of the heavy rock and metal I listen to is slightly grating on the HD 800.  But when I put on acoustic music I was instantly impressed with the detail and space.  Some rock, such as Rush, also sounded very good straight away.

 

This is all through my Violectric stack, which I believe is regarded as a good match for the HD 800.  Can't wait for my brain to start burning in (and for my Decware Taboo MKIII to arrive).  :)

 

Glad you are enjoying your HD800. I got mine as a compliment to my HE-500 as well. All the weaknesses of the HE-500 are things that the HD800 excel with and vice versa. Both are phenomenal headphones, however I still prefer my HE-500 slightly over the HD800.

 

Before anyone says its because of my source or cables or some other nonsense, the reasons I prefer the HE-500 are things that can't be added to the HD800 by changing source, at least not to the same extent. The lush, silky smooth mids, powerful impact in the bass and a laid-back treble presentation that does not lack in detail. I also like the intimate soundstage and highly layered presentation. I guess all that can be summed up as "the ortho sound".

 

That said, I still enjoy my HD800 very much.

post #3689 of 15797
Yep I think I'll ultimately also end up preferring my HE-500 for most things, as I also love 'that sound', but we'll see. I listen to a lot of 70s rock which simply sounds amazing on the Hifimans.

Listening a bit more to the HD 800s now, and really enjoying Ane Brun's debut album (Scandinavian singer songwriter). I can tell that these headphones are something special. If it's possible for anything to sound like 'German engineering', I think this must be it. smily_headphones1.gif Such clarity and precision. Actually my entire rig is German right now (DAC and amp are both Violectric).

I also tried a bit more metal just now, and it didn't work very well. The new Vhol album, which I love dearly and which I consider to have very good production for a black metal oriented album, sounds much better on the HE-500. I'll give some doom a go this evening (Evoken and Esoteric are favourites of mine).

Edit: typo
Edited by Kendoji - 7/15/13 at 9:38am
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i prefer metal on my T1 or LCD2
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