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post #3586 of 19572
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Heck no.  No way.  $6.5K?  

ditto! Add some change and you have the SimAudio moon amp! anyway, back to hd800. 

post #3587 of 19572
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Originally Posted by Cante Ista View Post

Just put my daughter for a nap and put my HD800 of F3 on. When the music came on I literally thought that I had the computer signal going into my speaker rig for a second there and reached to my receiver to turn down the volume, so that my daughter can sleep. Needless to say, the volume did not decrease. This mirage did not last long, but it was long enough to make me think -- DAMN THESE ARE GOOD HEADPHONES!!!

I have similar experience. +1
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

I'd think the problem is when you have other headphones (especially cheaper ones ) , and find that some qualities  are better on them. Then the question would be if you would blame the source, or the almighty hd800.

The almighty hd800, of course!
post #3588 of 19572

I spent a few days this weekend listening without the "Anax mod." Sure enough the treble spike (cliche, I know but what else could I call it?) snuck up on me again. I'm glad I stored the pieces on a sheet of tin foil. Reinstalled them and all is well again.

 

I have to wonder with all the R&D Sennheiser put into their flagship, what are others opinions on whether the response is by design or if it was somehow overlooked during production? Maybe it's just as close as they could get to perfect and they simply stopped messing with it (robbing Peter to pay Paul)?

post #3589 of 19572
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

I spent a few days this weekend listening without the "Anax mod." Sure enough the treble spike (cliche, I know but what else could I call it?) snuck up on me again. I'm glad I stored the pieces on a sheet of tin foil. Reinstalled them and all is well again.

 

I have to wonder with all the R&D Sennheiser put into their flagship, what are others opinions on whether the response is by design or if it was somehow overlooked during production? Maybe it's just as close as they could get to perfect and they simply stopped messing with it (robbing Peter to pay Paul)?

 

I am also preferring the HD800s with my ANAX mods installed. What Sennheiser told me in person when I popped this question is that the a lot of recordings are too bright and the frequency response of the HD800 is perfectly adequate. Their R&D tuning methods are both objective, via measurements, and subjective using a group of listeners who are polled for results. I personally think I wouldn't be missing anything if the HD800s were a bit less bright (either through materials used or tuned slightly differently).


Edited by negura - 7/8/13 at 9:22am
post #3590 of 19572
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Originally Posted by negura View Post

 

I am also preferring the HD800s with my ANAX mods installed. What Sennheiser told me in person when I popped this question is that the a lot of recordings are too bright and the frequency response of the HD800 is perfectly adequate. Their R&D tuning methods are both objective, via measurements, and subjective using a group of listeners who are polled for results. I personally think I wouldn't be missing anything if the HD800s were a bit less bright (either through materials used or tuned slightly differently).


For me they are perfect. I have not experienced treble issues at all so I am glad they made them as they did.

different strokes....

post #3591 of 19572
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Originally Posted by negura View Post

 

 Their R&D tuning methods are both objective, via measurements, and subjective using a group of listeners who are polled for results.

 

Maybe "the subjective tests" were done only with classical music.

post #3592 of 19572
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

 

Maybe "the subjective tests" were done only with classical music.

 

I don't find the "tizz" to be genre dependent.

post #3593 of 19572
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

 

I don't find the "tizz" to be genre dependent.


I'm not sure I  understand this tizz thing.

Is it something that could be related to sibilance ?


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 7/8/13 at 10:06am
post #3594 of 19572

Yes, I suppose it is a form of sibilance. Only certain instrument sounds at a very specific frequency though. Imagine a steel brush on a snare drum or cymbal taps having a piercing sizzling bacon sound.

post #3595 of 19572
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

Yes, I suppose it is a form of sibilance. Only certain instrument sounds at a very specific frequency though. Imagine a steel brush on a snare drum or cymbal taps having a piercing sizzling bacon sound.

Well, great that you managed to fix this.

 

I think I've finally understood how the anax mod works: it's about dampening , i.e you limit unwanted reflections in every hard parts, while off course you avoid to obstruct grills.

 

Perhaps just putting some kleenex would work ... biggrin.gif

Mmm more seriously I'm not sure if there  would be a basic solution, without that creatology thing.


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 7/8/13 at 2:02pm
post #3596 of 19572
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Originally Posted by negura View Post

 

I am also preferring the HD800s with my ANAX mods installed. What Sennheiser told me in person when I popped this question is that the a lot of recordings are too bright and the frequency response of the HD800 is perfectly adequate. Their R&D tuning methods are both objective, via measurements, and subjective using a group of listeners who are polled for results. I personally think I wouldn't be missing anything if the HD800s were a bit less bright (either through materials used or tuned slightly differently).

 

 

The Anax mods are a god send.

 

Can't listen to my HD800 without them anymore.

post #3597 of 19572
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Originally Posted by Cante Ista View Post


For me they are perfect. I have not experienced treble issues at all so I am glad they made them as they did.

different strokes....

 

Well, well look a here Viktor.  It seems like we agree yet again.  I tried a pair of HD800 (anax mod) at a local meet and compared them to my HD800 with a Reign cable.  With my pair I did not experience this treble issue as well.  With the modded pair, I was sacrificing more things that I was willing to give up.  Soundstage, air around the instruments and so on.  It took away what the HD800s was "for me"  I will not put any additional mods on my pair other than an aftermarket cable.

post #3598 of 19572
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

Well, well look a here Viktor.  It seems like we agree yet again.  I tried a pair of HD800 (anax mod) at a local meet and compared them to my HD800 with a Reign cable.  With my pair I did not experience this treble issue as well.  With the modded pair, I was sacrificing more things that I was willing to give up.  Soundstage, air around the instruments and so on.  It took away what the HD800s was "for me"  I will not put any additional mods on my pair other than an aftermarket cable.

+2

post #3599 of 19572

I was kidding about damping the hd800 with kleenex, but it was already done with the T1:

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/612796/guide-how-to-properly-dampen-your-beyerdynamic-t1/105#post_9082608

 

I imagine that adding some damping in the hd800 could improve a bit the sound, although I doubt it would be too significant.

 

This reminds me of the hd25 vs amperior,  sennheiser basically added some foam & use metallic cup to minimize resonances, but the improvement is not enough to consider that it sounds different.

 

I'm guessing that the hd900 could be better dampening + slightly bigger driver.

post #3600 of 19572
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

I was kidding about damping the hd800 with kleenex, but it was already done with the T1:

 

 

 

 

This evokes Fred Flintstone.

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