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post #3481 of 13871

I feel quite lucky to have gotten my NIB HD800 for $900 (from a friend of a friend in the audio biz).

 

:-)

 

That being said.. $1100 is a great price for them and I'd gladly pay that if I had to.

 

..and, I too find the HD800 quite non-fatiguing (both from a comfort and acoustic standpoint) over long term listening sessions.  Your upstream gear matters here.. but match it well and I feel like I can listen to them forever.. even with "less than ideally" recorded music.

post #3482 of 13871

I love my HD800 but linear, not so much.  The treble peak is the treble peak.  On some songs, complete non issue because nothing is going on in that range, on others it's bad.  Easiest way to find it... play some pink noise.  Can't miss it.  But the HD800 does things no other headphone does, soundstage, unapologetic resolution and detail.

post #3483 of 13871

Nothing is perfect, but is there another headphone more linear without getting into top Stax territory?  

post #3484 of 13871

Got a PM from coloware they are repainting hD800 for 299.00 if anyone is interested

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Originally Posted by Cante Ista View Post

Besides, good techno music will have amazing layering of sounds that lays out awesome complex sonic tapestry. HD800 is great at show you that tapestry clearly!

 

Any techno album you particularly enjoyed with the hd800 ?

So far I enjoyed the album Richie Hawtin -  DE9.Transitions on the HD800,  minimal techno if you like to pay attention to little details.

But I  like also hard hitting bass to insane levels,  and for this I prefer  Iems.

 

@MickeyVee View Post

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They are the only headphones that I find non-fatiguing over longer listening sessions.

A bit surprising.

 

By the way, how do you find the sibilance on this track with the hd800 ?

It's in french, but the sssss are largely resonating.

 

 


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Better yet, bring what you normally listen to and have them play that.  That's the best way to see if you like them.  Having them play a genre 'just because' means nothing (to me) if its not what you will be listening to the majority of your time. 

Well, if a headphone perform particularly well for a genre , you might become more curious for that genre.


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 6/28/13 at 4:18pm
post #3486 of 13871
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Got a PM from coloware they are repainting hD800 for 299.00 if anyone is interested

Thanks Frank. Seems like a good business move as not many people are going to re-buy the headphones just for the paint job. 

post #3487 of 13871
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Got a PM from coloware they are repainting hD800 for 299.00 if anyone is interested

Very good news! Thank you.
post #3488 of 13871
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Nothing is perfect, but is there another headphone more linear without getting into top Stax territory?  

 

Every ortho comes to mind ;)  Even the 'lesser' ones tend to be flat from 20-1KHz.  Only taking linear performance into account.  I zero out that treble shelf and boom linear AND all the other things we love the HD800 for stick around.  Win win.

 

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Not surprising after owning the HD700 for just over a year :) No fatigue at all for me. Everything else from the HD600, HD650, HD700, HE500 caused some discomfort over long sessions.. some for different reasons. The overall tonal balance of the HD800 works for me, an least in the setup I have.

 

Sorry.. can't play this video in Canada.. go figure.

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@MickeyVee View Post

A bit surprising.

 

By the way, how do you find the sibilance on this track with the hd800 ?

It's in french, but the sssss are largely resonating.

 


Edited by MickeyVee - 6/28/13 at 5:25pm
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Sorry.. can't play this video in Canada.. go figure.

frown.gif, I hate these copyright restrictions. It's easier to get illegally the damn thing, than just view the video.

Track "Appelle Mon Numéro" from artist "Mylène Farmer" , album "point de souture".

Maybe this link would work (not as good as the official vevo):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am8Y4zK942g

post #3491 of 13871

Yup, a whole album of that would drive me nuts. It's the recording, not the HD800. Also tried it with my M100's which have noticeable top end roll off and even heard it on them. It's too bad that poor engineering ruins a good song.  Happens all the time.

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

frown.gif, I hate these copyright restrictions. It's easier to get illegally the damn thing, than just view the video.

Track "Appelle Mon Numéro" from artist "Mylène Farmer" , album "point de souture".

Maybe this link would work (not as good as the official vevo):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am8Y4zK942g

post #3492 of 13871
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post

Yup, a whole album of that would drive me nuts. It's the recording, not the HD800. Also tried it with my M100's which have noticeable top end roll off and even heard it on them. It's too bad that poor engineering ruins a good song.  Happens all the time.


I think there's sibilance on the recording , but the hd800 makes it more obvious.

Anyways, I  love  this artist, so this is the hd800 fault.wink.gif

post #3493 of 13871
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

Every ortho comes to mind ;)  Even the 'lesser' ones tend to be flat from 20-1KHz.  Only taking linear performance into account.  I zero out that treble shelf and boom linear AND all the other things we love the HD800 for stick around.  Win win.

 

I agree that the LCD2's are linear hp's. but from the mids onwards no.

 

You see when I look at that graph, I see one below linearity and one above in the treble. And in fact the HD800 is more focused on the neutral, apart from that obvious peak. Where as the LCD has a steady slope down from the mids. The dip around 3-4 is predictable because humans are very sensitive to this area and we actually have a natural dip in our hearing at this range. That's why hp's that are flat or emphasized at this point always cause us problems and the LCD2's are no exception. Though the K701's instantly spring to mind with more severity. The Senns also start dipping in the bass just on the mark of what we can hear, where as the LCD2 just keep going.. No need.

 

Its an argument that can't be proven on paper though my friend. Probably best to ask a professional studio producer which one they would use to master a recording of Beethoven's symphonies... Me thinks me knows which one they would choose ;)    

post #3494 of 13871

Not saying the LCD-2 is neutral just pointing out that the HD800 isn't either.  Neither would make great mixing cans since one would give you a light mix and the other a dark one.  HD800 is great at finding errors though, LCD-2 not so much.

post #3495 of 13871
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post

The HD800 don't blow you away.. they grow on you.  They just keep on getting better and better.  I found that a headphones that blew me away initially ended up grating on me in the long term. For me, HE400, HD650 are case in point.  I've heard the HD800 a number of times over the years and really didn't like them much until I owned many others.  Only then could I appreciate them. Also, they are the only headphones that I find non-fatiguing over longer listening sessions.

 

$1100 is an awesome price!

 

I have to agree that the 20 minutes or so that I got to listen to them was certainly not enough to give good judgement, which is why I said my impressions were probably skewed. Anyway, I really do think any headphone, IEM, or speaker, given time, will "grow" on you. It happened with my ad900x, vc02, and to an extent the m31p that I got. While quickly switching between them, the flaws in the lower end ones were apparent, but it becomes less noticeable as you listen to them more and more. It's just a thing our minds do, like in that one experiment where people's views were turned upside down, and their brains somehow turned it back over after a given amount of time. Of course, there are less subtle details that even our brains can't mask like drastic changes in fq response. 

 

I really want to go back to that store now to demo again, once I have more time. Also, I will be (even more) prepared the next time (by bringing my own music and test tracks), as originally it only caught my sight by chance...

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