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The thing that I took note of right off the bat, was, of course, the soundstage and imaging. The instrument separation was also incredible. Compared to the AD900x (I was actually able to compare them on the spot because I had brought my AD900x with me in my backpack), the HD800 really sounded a lot more clear and transparent, while also being more detailed. The piano that I heard was placed very clearly and the position of it was much more defined. Another thing that amazed me was how I was able to hear slight reverberation of the vocals that were inaudible on the AD900x, which attests to the amount of detail the HD800 offers. The HD800 really makes the ad900x sound thick and muddled in comparison. This was all expected though, as the ad900x is in a whole different price range. Nonetheless, my short experience with the HD800 was quite enlightening, and although I wasn't as blown away as I was when I first heard the HE400, I was very impressed. The HD800 had an overall very immersive feel to it.

 

Another thing, they said that they had the HD800 on sale for $1100, which is $400 less than the current amazon price. I'm not sure whether that's a good price for it, but even if it is, I still wouldn't be able to afford it. Perhaps I'll need to sell my soul for it... or not. evil_smiley.gif

Piano ? Really ? I'm wondering if the shops don't have some instructions to only demo with classical. stuff.

There's also an official demo sennheiser cd  with mostly jazz/ classical.

Just ask for a new demo with techno,  metal, I'd think you'd have less regrets for not having these hd800. wink.gif

I've personally insisted for a demo with techno before buying them,  and it was  less impressive, than with the first classical cd they played.

It was at this point hesitating to get them.

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Because a transducers ability to faithfully recreate a piano or violin is irrelevent. Techno is the real test of a headphone... rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

Because a transducers ability to faithfully recreate a piano or violin is irrelevent. Techno is the real test of a headphone... rolleyes.gif

 

Well, to test a headphone , you should try different genre. It's well known that classical is the genre were the hd800 shine the best, you want to test them with other genre to get a better idea of their performance.

Just like the monster beats are marketed for "hip hop", they won't demo them with classical music for sure.


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 6/28/13 at 10:49am
post #3469 of 15327
Except I know what a concert piano sounds like in real life. What does a drum machine sound like in nature?

For me, if a headphone can make a violin sound real (attack, tone, decay, etc.) then it can do any genre well. I have no baseline to judge a headphone based on how synthesized tones sound.
Edited by palmfish - 6/28/13 at 10:58am
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 I have no baseline to judge a headphone based on how synthesized tones sound.

Richness of music , excitement, level of details, variations.  Is it just interesting to listen, with the hd800, to  that kind of music, without entering  in the technicalities  ?

post #3471 of 15327
Thats great. Whatever works for you biggrin.gif
Edited by palmfish - 6/28/13 at 11:19am
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For me, if a headphone can make a violin sound real (attack, tone, decay, etc.) then it can do any genre well.

 

Violin only exists in the mid range.  It's not a test of bass or treble.

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It's not a test of bass or treble.

Obviously. I didnt mean to infer that I think a violin recording is all that is needed to evaluate the entire range of headphone performance.

Actually, I mentioned the violin because it is a particularly difficult instrument for a transducer to reproduce naturally.
Edited by palmfish - 6/28/13 at 11:54am
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Better yet, bring what you normally listen to and have them play that.  That's the best way to see if you like them.  Having them play a genre 'just because' means nothing (to me) if its not what you will be listening to the majority of your time. 

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Better yet, bring what you normally listen to and have them play that.  That's the best way to see if you like them.  Having them play a genre 'just because' means nothing (to me) if its not what you will be listening to the majority of your time. 

Yup that makes sense to me. But I suppose having your existing headphones with you that you are very familiar with would also make sense. 

 

Just my two sense :D beerchug.gif

post #3476 of 15327

WHile I prefer HE6 on Techno, HD800 is not far behind. Hooked up to my Sonett or F3 it has plenty of bass weight. Besides, good techno music will have amazing layering of sounds that lays out awesome complex sonic tapestry. HD800 is great at show you that tapestry clearly!

 

But ofcourse classical is the best to assess tonality. Much of rock music is not that great to that just like EDM or IDM. my 2 cents.


Edited by Cante Ista - 6/28/13 at 1:44pm
post #3477 of 15327
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

Yup that makes sense to me. But I suppose having your existing headphones with you that you are very familiar with would also make sense. 

 

Just my two sense :D beerchug.gif

Certainly, for comparisons sake that makes sense, but it still comes down to what you hear in the phones you are testing.  Playing the test phones on your own rig would be best.

post #3478 of 15327

The HD800 don't blow you away.. they grow on you.  They just keep on getting better and better.  I found that a headphones that blew me away initially ended up grating on me in the long term. For me, HE400, HD650 are case in point.  I've heard the HD800 a number of times over the years and really didn't like them much until I owned many others.  Only then could I appreciate them. Also, they are the only headphones that I find non-fatiguing over longer listening sessions.

 

$1100 is an awesome price!

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Originally Posted by Pazz View Post

Nonetheless, my short experience with the HD800 was quite enlightening, and although I wasn't as blown away as I was when I first heard the HE400, I was very impressed. The HD800 had an overall very immersive feel to it.

 

Another thing, they said that they had the HD800 on sale for $1100, which is $400 less than the current amazon price. I'm not sure whether that's a good price for it, but even if it is, I still wouldn't be able to afford it. Perhaps I'll need to sell my soul for it... or not. evil_smiley.gif

post #3479 of 15327
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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post

Certainly, for comparisons sake that makes sense, but it still comes down to what you hear in the phones you are testing.  Playing the test phones on your own rig would be best.

Agreed. The ideal is taking the phones home and testing on your own rig with your fave music. Because even if you take your fave tester cd to the store, you would still be playing it on equipment that you aren't familiar with.

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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post

The HD800 don't blow you away.. they grow on you.  They just keep on getting better and better.  I found that a headphones that blew me away initially ended up grating on me in the long term. For me, HE400, HD650 are case in point.  I've heard the HD800 a number of times over the years and really didn't like them much until I owned many others.  Only then could I appreciate them. Also, they are the only headphones that I find non-fatiguing over longer listening sessions.

 

$1100 is an awesome price!

Thats something that you don't read very often on here. But I agree. Once you find an amp that feeds them what they want, they are so linear that nothing irritates you over long periods unless you are listening to annoying music or harsh recordings. Other headphones that are labelled as 'less fatiguing' I'm now finding were more annoying over long periods than the HD800's. The HE500's with their hump and odd treble peaks... LCD2's.. Boom boom boom.. headache styley  ; The only other headphone that is as none fatiguing over long listening sessions imo is of course the 650's. But the chances of falling asleep are much higher. 

 

and of course there is the comfort factor.

 

$1100 ! you'd be lucky to get a 2 year old 2nd hand pair for that price. Snap em up and don't look back!  

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