Originally Posted by MickeyVee
Here's the thread on the Uber Upgrade. I did the upgrade last night and the difference was immediately noticeable.
I cant specifically talk to the HD800... yet... but with the HE-500 the bass tightened up, better extension across the spectrum and smoother mids and highs with less grain. I'm suspecting that I'm getting more detail also but it's hard to tell. It seems a little brighter but that may be due to the upper end extension/detail. Need to spend some more time with it.
I didn't do the Gen2 USB upgrade. I do have both USB and optical hooked up with my MacMini but it's really hard to tell the difference. Maybe when I get the HD800...
Hope this helps, M
Thank you.. glad to see the uber upgrade made a distinguishable difference for you. Looking forward to seeing how you like it when the HD800 arrives. If you've had some experience with other DACs, some general performance comparisons of them vs the Bifrost-Uber would be appreciated, too.
Originally Posted by palmfish
I think a well designed input, whether USB, Coax, or Optical will sound equally good. I personally would rather use the input I have rather than use a converter in the chain.
Agreed. I'd rather just go with USB for the sake of simplicity (and lack of clutter).. if the implementation was solid.
Originally Posted by paradoxper
Funny because you have soo many people who claim toslink is completely flawed or that USB isn't good enough without a converter.
Personally, I've heard optical and USB sound no different. That's from a Bifrost, Gungnir, M51 and PWD MKII.
Personally, I've never had a problem with toslink or coax (as far as finding one 'flawed' vs the other). Most of the USB implementations I've heard (admittedly, in "mid-fi" territory) have been good as far as reliability, but in a few cases, I've found coax/optical to sound noticeably better (the Leckerton UHA-6S MKII being one of the best examples). The TubeDAC-11 is antoehr that seems to have a marginally better coax/optical input vs the USB. I never found the USB inputs on these devices to be substandard or performing poorly, just that the coax/optical inputs yielded slightly better sound. I'm using the Izmo M1 as a DDC (project86 reviewed it for IF and said it compared quite favorably to the Stello U3) with the V800. The V800's usb input is great.. but it's optical sounds a bit more spacious and clear.
Edited by FlySweep - 5/16/13 at 1:12am