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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post

Well, my HD700 are sold and I just ordered a pair of HD800.  Long story but it may take a few weeks.  Looking forward to it!

It is worth the wait MV!

post #2687 of 19178
The Leviathan is no longer a 7K amp...prob much less at this juncture. I shouldn't say more until it materializes further....
-Daniel
post #2688 of 19178
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

The Leviathan is no longer a 7K amp...prob much less at this juncture. I shouldn't say more until it materializes further....
-Daniel

Oh right...the Moth to the flame is a different amp now... rolleyes.gif

Edit: Levi will still be quite expensive though.
Edited by MorbidToaster - 5/14/13 at 9:42pm
post #2689 of 19178
Aren't you in on it now, MT?

-Daniel
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Aren't you in on it now, MT?

-Daniel

Maybe but there seems like there hasn't been an update in awhile.
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Guys I think I am going to go wither either the WA2 Or WA6-SE for my HD800 setup. DAC wise I only need USB, I have no use for optical or coax since I am using a computer setup and I won't be connecting a CD transport or anything. Should I just go with something like an ODAC? Any recommendations?

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Originally Posted by OICWUTUDIDTHAR View Post

Guys I think I am going to go wither either the WA2 Or WA6-SE for my HD800 setup. DAC wise I only need USB, I have no use for optical or coax since I am using a computer setup and I won't be connecting a CD transport or anything. Should I just go with something like an ODAC? Any recommendations?

If you are set on going for usb only then try and make sure you get a dac with a asynchronous usb input. Normal usb inputs can give you jitter and are mostly limited to 16bit 44hz. Don't want to go down the bit war arguments.. but newer dacs have asynchronous usb implementation for a reason. It will clock the data received so that you get a bit perfect signal before it reaches the dac stage. 

 

Also, there are plenty of usb to spdif converters on the market at the moment and I would recommend using one of those if you are using computer as source then you can feed the dac through the coaxial input (this is generally considered the best input). This will also give you the flexibility of using any dac. 

 

Also, if you are on a budget then yes an odac will do you for now. But I would highly recommend upgrading asap as the HD800's will show it for what it is. A budget dac. Your source is as important as your amp and so try and find something equal to your Woo. Maybe a Bitfrost. 

 

I can highly recommend the Vdac mkII as a quality alternative and it plays well with the HD800's. It has asynchronous usb and can easily compete with any mid price dac that I have heard.

 

Good luck :) 

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Can anyone comment on how the Bifrost w/ the "Uber Analog" upgrade sounds with the HD800?  I'd plan on using the Bifrost's optical input so I'm not as concerned with the "USB Gen 2" upgrade (though impressions there are certainly welcome).

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woo audio 2 !!!!

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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

Can anyone comment on how the Bifrost w/ the "Uber Analog" upgrade sounds with the HD800?  I'd plan on using the Bifrost's optical input so I'm not as concerned with the "USB Gen 2" upgrade (though impressions there are certainly welcome).

 

I can't comment on the Uber, safe to assume it's better than stock, but the real gem of the Gung is the digital input section.  Give you a hint, PWD2 Digital Lens, for several thousands less ;)

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

I can't comment on the Uber, safe to assume it's better than stock, but the real gem of the Gung is the digital input section.  Give you a hint, PWD2 Digital Lens, for several thousands less ;)

 

Very intriguing.. I've typically (almost always) had better results with optical and coax connections on DACs vs USB.. even on a nice until like the V800.  So an improved USB section on the Bifrost would certainly be something I'd invest in if its worth it.  I planned on using the Meridian Explorer as a USB-to-SPDIF converter (to feed the Bifrost), but if the USB on the Bifrost delivers, it's one less thing to have to hook up.

 

Thanks.

post #2697 of 19178

Here's the thread on the Uber Upgrade. I did the upgrade last night and the difference was immediately noticeable.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/661444/schiit-bifrost-uber-analog-upgrade

I cant specifically talk to the HD800... yet... but with the HE-500 the bass tightened up, better extension across the spectrum and smoother mids and highs with less grain. I'm suspecting that I'm getting more detail also but it's hard to tell. It seems a little brighter but that may be due to the upper end extension/detail. Need to spend some more time with it.

I didn't do the Gen2 USB upgrade. I do have both USB and optical hooked up with my MacMini but it's really hard to tell the difference. Maybe when I get the HD800...

Hope this helps, M

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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post

Can anyone comment on how the Bifrost w/ the "Uber Analog" upgrade sounds with the HD800?  I'd plan on using the Bifrost's optical input so I'm not as concerned with the "USB Gen 2" upgrade (though impressions there are certainly welcome).


Edited by MickeyVee - 5/15/13 at 5:55pm
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Sorry mean the digital input (toslink/coax/usb) not the USB card itself.  I also run toslink because with very few exceptions electric connections to the PC are noisy.

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I think a well designed input, whether USB, Coax, or Optical will sound equally good. I personally would rather use the input I have rather than use a converter in the chain.
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Funny because you have soo many people who claim toslink is completely flawed or that USB isn't good enough without a converter.

 

Personally, I've heard optical and USB sound no different. That's from a Bifrost, Gungnir, M51 and PWD MKII.


Edited by paradoxper - 5/15/13 at 3:24pm
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