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post #2641 of 15349

Alright - the HD800s are such a beast. In a great way.

 

A while ago I've built myself a badass copper cable with high-end wires, soldering and good connectors and I think I am right now clocking 150-200 hours on it. I swear it's transformed from when I first listened to it. It adds strong body, bass presence, musicality and a hint of warmth to my HD800s. The treble is still really well extended but actually my HD800s are now less sibilant prone than the LCD-3s. The latter is with silver cables.

 

Recently I've added an interface (AP2+IFI IUSB) to my upstream and that's also added another couple of notches of flow, detail, smoothness, musicality and extension. 

 

The slam and the energy are still surprising me, it's the N-th time the last couple of days and I am still getting surprised by it.

 

I keep getting amazed how much the HD800s scale when fed the proper sauce. If anyone tells me again the HD800s sound thin, lack bass, too sibilant, I could laugh, but I will say ... please have patience and build a system around them and you will be GREATLY rewarded.


Edited by negura - 5/13/13 at 5:13pm
post #2642 of 15349
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Originally Posted by EraserXIV View Post

 

Thanks for the input. I have auditioned them before, but unfortunately not with my current setup and I don't have a line on a pair anymore to test out in my rig :(

 

I've heard decent experiences about the HD800 hooked up to the Crack and that the next step up as far as tube amps go would be a Decware, which is unfortunately more than I'm willing to spend at the moment for an amp. I feel I'd get more for my money by putting it towards a different headphone instead.

 

I like the HD650 for its full and romantic sound, but I realized that every upgrade I was considering for it was to try to get it closer to the HD800 sound I liked when I heard it. I guess I just wanted a change of pace. Instead of dropping $300 on a cable, an extra $500+ on a DAC to try to get closer to the HD800 sound I liked, it makes more sense for the $800+ to just go towards getting the darn headphones. Plus, I'll still have the HD650 to go back to when I want that romantic sound again.

Skip the cable unless you want balanced. You can get a stock cable reterminated for cheap if that's the reason. Spending it all on the DAC would be a better idea. At $800 you can get some pretty good DACs esp if you buy used.

post #2643 of 15349
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

Skip the cable unless you want balanced. You can get a stock cable reterminated for cheap if that's the reason. Spending it all on the DAC would be a better idea. At $800 you can get some pretty good DACs esp if you buy used.

 

Yeah that's the plan, the remaining money is going towards a DAC. The HD800 cable is a nice departure from the paltry offering that came with the HD6X0, at least as far as stock cables are concerned. Also, with the DAC scene in such flux nowadays (with the resurgence of DSD, better USB implementations not requiring a transport, etc), I think I'm better off waiting and seeing what's still standing after all the dust settles.

post #2644 of 15349
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post


Time marches on I suppose. Yesterdays flagship is todays skiff, huh?

I also have a DAC1 and find the amp and DAC to both be top notch with the HD800.

I did recently pick up a lovely Pioneer Elite DV-79AVi off Craigslist for a song. Its not of the caliber of your Sony, but it does have that lovely lush analog sound or when Im in the mood for that sort of thing.

Indeed technology moves at a fast pace specially the digital processing section. However, reading on the internet and other forums the XA7ES´s transport and power section is still State of the Art by todays highest standards.  I bought this unit new and moved on to SACD and had it gathering dust for years. I took the top off for a look inside and was amazed at how much copper it

has inside the case for RF isolation. Its close to 30lbs!

post #2645 of 15349
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Originally Posted by RIQUE View Post

Indeed technology moves at a fast pace specially the digital processing section. However, reading on the internet and other forums the XA7ES´s transport and power section is still State of the Art by todays highest standards.  I bought this unit new and moved on to SACD and had it gathering dust for years. I took the top off for a look inside and was amazed at how much copper it

has inside the case for RF isolation. Its close to 30lbs!

 

They dont make them like that anymore, thats for sure!

 

Its a beauty.

post #2646 of 15349
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Originally Posted by EraserXIV View Post

I was getting ready to drop $1k on a DAC to complement my HD650, but got cold feet and am now having thoughts on putting that money towards an HD800. Any thoughts on where the $ is better spent?

 

I am worried about the fact that it'll be a bit before I can invest in a decent source for the HD800s, and in my time with them, they were pretty source picky. I'm left with about $500+ to play around with for the DAC.

 

Eraser, let me tell you one thing. When I got my HD800 I was driving them with a little Headroom amp, then the cd player amp and then the pre amp headphone amp. The HD800 sucked!!!

My old Grado 325 kicked its ass all day.  I think the HD800 are very hard to drive and if I were you I would first get a top notch dac/amp that will drive your HD650 without breaking a sweat. Once you upgrade your headphones you will not need to wory about juice for the 800´s. Just the way I see it.

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1700 dollar budget for DAC+Amp, what should I go for?

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According to uchihaitachi, a lot of people preferred "the LCD-3 and HD650 over the Orpheus and the HD800"

during a blind test (people were blindfolded):

http://www.head-fi.org/products/sennheiser-orpheus-he-90/reviews/8951

 

This is for people that keep repeating that the hd800 are the best, just like a broken record.

I  wish I  tried these hd650.


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 5/13/13 at 8:50pm
post #2649 of 15349
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Originally Posted by OICWUTUDIDTHAR View Post

1700 dollar budget for DAC+Amp, what should I go for?

A Auditor fits right in there. Choose a DAC of your choice.

post #2650 of 15349
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Originally Posted by OICWUTUDIDTHAR View Post

1700 dollar budget for DAC+Amp, what should I go for?

 

Benchmark DAC I all the way. If you can dish out some more cash they have come out with the DAC II.   I tell ya the DAC I and the HD800 are a perfect match. Highly recommended

post #2651 of 15349
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

According to uchihaitachi, a lot of people preferred "the LCD-3 and HD650 over the Orpheus and the HD800"
during a blind test (people were blindfolded):
http://www.head-fi.org/products/sennheiser-orpheus-he-90/reviews/8951

This is for people that keep repeating that the hd800 are the best, just like a broken record.
I  wish I  tried these hd650.
It is impossible to have a blind test with those 4 headphones as they fit VERY differently. Only the 650 and Orpheus are somewhat similar, but still different. It would be instantly obvious which you were wearing. That test is a farce.
post #2652 of 15349
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Originally Posted by RIQUE View Post

 

Eraser, let me tell you one thing. When I got my HD800 I was driving them with a little Headroom amp, then the cd player amp and then the pre amp headphone amp. The HD800 sucked!!!

My old Grado 325 kicked its ass all day.  I think the HD800 are very hard to drive and if I were you I would first get a top notch dac/amp that will drive your HD650 without breaking a sweat. Once you upgrade your headphones you will not need to wory about juice for the 800´s. Just the way I see it.

 

Thanks for the advice, I'm not too worried about the Crack not providing enough juice. It's got plenty of power in reserve and seems to do a well enough job for a good amount of people. Certainly not end-game, but for under $800 I don't know of many alternatives that'll get you much closer. Now I just need to find a reasonably priced DAC to go with it.


Edited by EraserXIV - 5/13/13 at 9:14pm
post #2653 of 15349
You kids, my Leviathan is gonna stomp everything with the HD 800. wink.gif That said, I kinda want both a GSX2 and a Phonitor/Auditor for an easy SS amp alternative.

-Daniel
post #2654 of 15349
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Originally Posted by BournePerfect View Post

You kids, my Leviathan is gonna stomp everything with the HD 800. wink.gif That said, I kinda want both a GSX2 and a Phonitor/Auditor for an easy SS amp alternative.

-Daniel

I'd hope so considering the estimated price of that amp.
post #2655 of 15349

What is the estimated price of the Leviathan?

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