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Aha sorry MickeyVee...a HD700 and HE500 is definately worth a HD800 anyway.  When you end up getting them let me know.  I did the Anax mod on mine and it really takes them to another level.  I have a bunch of leftover materials if you want.

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Where did you guys buy the materials for the anax mod? I went to Michaels but they didn't really have all the recommended materials from the Inner fidelity.com review.
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I found the foam at Michaels no problem.  I used the 2.0 mm Creatology foam with the adhesive backing already attached.  I bought the shelf liner at Bed, Bath, and Beyond.  I honestly think the HD800 become more resolving and detailed when the excessive treble is removed with the mod.


Edited by Stapsy - 5/11/13 at 7:41pm
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They didn't have the adhesive backed foam. Did you get the "basic felt" from Michael's?
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How about a photo or two in honor of my newest acquisition beerchug.gif

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One of the best SS setup's right there. Assuming the Auditor has the same internals as the Phonitor without the crossfeed and vu meter, heaps better than any of the b22 config's I've tried.

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Lookin good ^^

 

The Auditor and the Senn's look like they were made for each other :)

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Isn't this 1 ms of ringing at 6 kHz?

 

I agree it's not like a set of Grado's, or that plot of the Audeze 'phones that you posted-  but to say "the HD800 has no ringing" -  really?  None?  As in zero?  True, it has a better waterfall plot than just about anything else out there, but that only serves to more fully expose it's flaw at 6 kHz.  If there was more random peakiness / longer die-off times all over the place in the HD800 plot, it would mask the problems at 6 kHz to some degree, the 6 kHz issue wouldn't stand out as much as it does now.

 

Sure looks like energy stays around a little longer at 6 kHz  than it does in the frequency regime around ~3 kHz  where it seems betterl damped.

 

My point wasn't that the HD800's are a lousy headphone which ring like tin cans-  my point was that it's not just a 6 kHz  peak that is the issue, but some energy storage at that frequency as well.  Because it's a time-domain issue and not just a frequency domain one, no amplifier pairing will be able to get rid of it.

 

 


Edited by milosz - 5/12/13 at 4:25am
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The counter to that would be that the level starts higher at 6K compared to 3K as well.  So it could simply be the 3K plot lifted.  But ringing is when the frequency literally rings continuously even after the signal is gone like in the LCD-3 plot.  The joke is that GoldenEars got a little ringing around 3K...

 

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Originally Posted by milosz View Post

 

My point wasn't that the HD800's are a lousy headphone which ring like tin cans-  my point was that it's not just a 6 kHz  peak that is the issue, but some energy storage at that frequency as well.  Because it's a time-domain issue and not just a frequency domain one, no amplifier pairing will be able to get rid of it.

Imho, the sub bass is a bigger issue on the hd800. You can see in this graph that there are flaws below 1k. And if the hd800 got more sub bass , people 's attention, wouldn't be focused on the treble. From what I've heard the mid bass is fine, but I  would think that the hd800 would sound more natural and balanced, if they got more sub bass.

 

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The counter to that would be that the level starts higher at 6K compared to 3K as well.  So it could simply be the 3K plot lifted.  But ringing is when the frequency literally rings continuously even after the signal is gone like in the LCD-3 plot.  The joke is that GoldenEars got a little ringing around 3K...

So the csd graph of hd800 at golden ear website is valid ? Because the csd of the cheaper srh940 looks so much better.

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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

Lookin good ^^

 

The Auditor and the Senn's look like they were made for each other :)

Yes, the silver on the HD800 matches the one on the Auditor perfectly!

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Can see the "ringing' on the graph but my ears can't hear it!What now?
 

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Originally Posted by milosz View Post

Isn't this 1 ms of ringing at 6 kHz?

I agree it's not like a set of Grado's, or that plot of the Audeze 'phones that you posted-  but to say "the HD800 has no ringing" -  really?  None?  As in zero?  True, it has a better waterfall plot than just about anything else out there, but that only serves to more fully expose it's flaw at 6 kHz.  If there was more random peakiness / longer die-off times all over the place in the HD800 plot, it would mask the problems at 6 kHz to some degree, the 6 kHz issue wouldn't stand out as much as it does now.

Sure looks like energy stays around a little longer at 6 kHz  than it does in the frequency regime around ~3 kHz  where it seems betterl damped.

My point wasn't that the HD800's are a lousy headphone which ring like tin cans-  my point was that it's not just a 6 kHz  peak that is the issue, but some energy storage at that frequency as well.  Because it's a time-domain issue and not just a frequency domain one, no amplifier pairing will be able to get rid of it.

Really stretching on this one. Finding the slightest flaw that isn't even audible to prove a point. That's like saying Michael Jordan wasn't a great player because his 3 point shooting % is not that good. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by silversurfer616 View Post

Can see the "ringing' on the graph but my ears can't hear it!What now?
 


 Ignore it and enjoy wink_face.gif

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So I waltzed in here a week or so ago and was told the SA5000 are the closest cans that come to the HD800's

 

Realizing that I would prefer an easy to amp can, I decided to go with the HE400

 

But I see SA5000's on sale used for $375. How much am I looking to spend on an amp/DAC to get these to sound good and/or remotely similar to HD800's?

 

Fast responses would be appreciated...I missed out on bidding on these a week ago and the winning bid was $300. I almost cried

 

Or maybe I'm still better off sticking with the HE400's?

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