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post #2461 of 13360
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Originally Posted by Sko0byDoo View Post

 

Interesting, I have the WA6SE, which drives the HD800 beautifully.  I am looking for a future upgrade to a WA5LE.  Now you say that they may sound the "same" makes me rethink about buying another Woo.  What are alternatives to the Woo lines, say in the money range of the WA5LE?      

Honestly for the price the WA5 is priced at, it is a joke for the sound performance it offers. Though the amp sounds more solid state then being of a warmer tube sound sig. Majority of the Woo amp's sound similar in ways to another. There's a saying among few experienced users more so than myself: "Once you heard a Woo, you've heard them all".

 

Well regarded amps for around the same price would be the EC and DNA lineup etc.

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I agree with defqon's suggested potential alternatives, but strongly disagree with his criticism of the wa5 and suggestions that all woo amps sound the same.

To be clear, I don't have a dog in this fight. I no longer own a woo amp. However, the 300b tubes driving the wa5 have a very different presentation from all their lower tier models - which respectively sound quite distinct from one another, even in meet conditions.

I can appeal to authority as well. Search back through headfi or on changstar for some of the comments from veritable golden ears like purrin and anax and you will see that I am not alone in appreciating what the wa5 has to offer when paired with hd800 - although I believe both would also tell you that the ec balancing act is even better (but with a higher sticker price).

In any event, other premium amps in worth considering, and auditioning if possible, would be headamp's gsx mk2, a custom dynahi if you can find a builder or bottlehead's soon to be released "mainline."

edit: here is the thread you want to read to cut to the chase, including the above-referenced comments from purrin and other veterans: http://www.head-fi.org/t/643740/team-hd800-challenge/0_30#post_9007457
Edited by skeptic - 5/7/13 at 11:27pm
post #2463 of 13360

Hey guys,

 

So I just realised that the huge box that the HD 800 came with contained nothing except the headphones+cables (and styrofoam and lush black velvety cloth over a HD 800 impression).

What would you all recommend as a suitable carrying case for the HD 800s? (e.g. soft v hard etc)

 

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by skeptic View Post

I agree with defqon's suggested potential alternatives, but strongly disagree with his criticism of the wa5 and suggestions that all woo amps sound the same.

To be clear, I don't have a dog in this fight. I no longer own a woo amp. However, the 300b tubes driving the wa5 have a very different presentation from all their lower tier models - which respectively sound quite distinct from one another, even in meet conditions.

I can appeal to authority as well. Search back through headfi or on changstar for some of the comments from veritable golden ears like purrin and anax and you will see that I am not alone in appreciating what the wa5 has to offer when paired with hd800 - although I believe both would also tell you that the ec balancing act is even better (but with a higher sticker price).

In any event, other premium amps in worth considering, and auditioning if possible, would be headamp's gsx mk2, a custom dynahi if you can find a builder or bottlehead's soon to be released "mainline."

edit: here is the thread you want to read to cut to the chase, including the above-referenced comments from purrin and other veterans: http://www.head-fi.org/t/643740/team-hd800-challenge/0_30#post_9007457

Woo amps are all about build quality, that's where it's price comes from. Strictly saying my previous post is of my own opinion. But at the price of the WA5, better can be purchased. Manley labs is also another brand to consider, they make some of the best tube amps in the world.

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Originally Posted by negura View Post

 

but what would you folks choose between the LCD-3s and HD800s if you could only have one headphone? And no you cannot answer Stax. ksc75smile.gif

 

HE-6

HD800

LCD-3

 

For me.biggrin.gif

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After years of Audeze cans and not preferring the HD800, I finally have a rig where the HD800 shines and in that rig the Audeze cans just aren't as good.  Mud in comparison to the HD800 on this rig while on the others rigs I had the HD800 was distant and lifeless.

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After years of Audeze cans and not preferring the HD800, I finally have a rig where the HD800 shines and in that rig the Audeze cans just aren't as good.  Mud in comparison to the HD800 on this rig while on the others rigs I had the HD800 was distant and lifeless.

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After years of Audeze cans and not preferring the HD800, I finally have a rig where the HD800 shines and in that rig the Audeze cans just aren't as good.  Mud in comparison to the HD800 on this rig while on the others rigs I had the HD800 was distant and lifeless.

You have gone back and forth many times.

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Originally Posted by PleasantSounds View Post

 

My family thinks I'm nuts as it is...

 

That's why we all hang out here!  

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

HE-6

HD800

LCD-3

 

For me.biggrin.gif

Looks like you got all your bases covered there :) I think HD800/HE6 is as far as I go unless I go into Stax. There really isn't much more I want other than maybe getting a better amp in the future but the Mjolnir is pretty good with the HD800 as it is so not sure about that yet but I will wait and see how the Schiit amp fares when it comes out.

 

You ever going to venture into Stax?

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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

Looks like you got all your bases covered there :) I think HD800/HE6 is as far as I go unless I go into Stax. There really isn't much more I want other than maybe getting a better amp in the future but the Mjolnir is pretty good with the HD800 as it is so not sure about that yet but I will wait and see how the Schiit amp fares when it comes out.

 

You ever going to venture into Stax?

 

Yeah the 009s are on my radar. 

 

Didn't like the Mjolnir with the HD800s so much.  However, I loved it with the LCDs..  I'm waiting on the Schiit Statement amp as well.  I'm hoping it sounds just as good with the LCDs as the Mjolnir.

post #2472 of 13360
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

After years of Audeze cans and not preferring the HD800, I finally have a rig where the HD800 shines and in that rig the Audeze cans just aren't as good.  Mud in comparison to the HD800 on this rig while on the others rigs I had the HD800 was distant and lifeless.

 

On the setup in my signature the HD800s sound really engaging and musical with plenty of punch. The AP2 I have very recently plugged into the ear food chain does wonders for the musicality. It's no easy going for the LCD-3s to convince me. But as LCD-3s are still somewhat fresh on the rack, I will reserve judgement for a few weeks. 


Edited by negura - 5/8/13 at 9:51am
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post

You have gone back and forth many times.

 

I've brought in the HD800 a few times but always had the Audeze already in house and always sold the HD800 soon after getting them, while the LCD-2 Rev1, Rev2 or LCD-3 stayed put.  This time is was a no contest... HD800 by a landslide.

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

I've brought in the HD800 a few times but always had the Audeze already in house and always sold the HD800 soon after getting them, while the LCD-2 Rev1, Rev2 or LCD-3 stayed put.  This time is was a no contest... HD800 by a landslide.

 

Very interesting how this came along over the years. Could there be any relation with the downstream gear used to power the HD800 evolving in the last couple of years?

I am personally finding the HD800s scale tremendously.

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Definitely gear.  The constant to getting great results from the HD800 seems to be BJT output devices.  Others have a fondness for tubes with the HD800 but since I never had a pure tube amp with them... can't say for myself.  Will add that the current rig is also the best I've ever heard the Audeze line up so it's not a matter of being tuned for the HD800.

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