The (new) HD800 Impressions Thread
Aug 28, 2016 at 4:51 PM Post #23,431 of 28,976
The HD800S is off the wall of Fame. I love the utopia and maybe it's my sentimentality, but I feel sorry for the removal. It's like, the end of an era. I still immensely enjoy my hd800 though. How do you guys feel about it?

 

 
 
But I'm waiting an utopia to make my own opinion by myself 
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Aug 28, 2016 at 7:41 PM Post #23,432 of 28,976
2 things…
This might just drive the price down for the 800S, which can be a good thing as it will become all the more affordable.
 
It is my understanding that the 800S is "off the wall"
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But the 800 remains…
 
JJ
 
Aug 28, 2016 at 8:53 PM Post #23,433 of 28,976
2 things…
This might just drive the price down for the 800S, which can be a good thing as it will become all the more affordable.

It is my understanding that the 800S is "off the wall" :atsmile:
But the 800 remains…

JJ
The HD800 was retired off the wall when the HD800S went on.
 
Aug 28, 2016 at 10:36 PM Post #23,434 of 28,976




But I'm waiting an utopia to make my own opinion by myself :D


I personally find this a rather rude of a comment, but I derived your opinion, nevertheless.
 
Aug 29, 2016 at 12:57 AM Post #23,435 of 28,976
Aug 29, 2016 at 9:55 AM Post #23,437 of 28,976
   

 
 
But I'm waiting an utopia to make my own opinion by myself 
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There was Tyll's wall of fame and now it TEN's* wall of fame, everybody should add a grain of salt, or two to anything being hyped now
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(*The Enthusiast Network)
 
And if I liked the HD800 / 800S for my personal musical preference before, does it make ANY difference, if it on or off the wall? ... see picture above
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Aug 29, 2016 at 10:01 AM Post #23,438 of 28,976
   
There was Tyll's wall of fame and now it TEN's* wall of fame, everybody should add a grain of salt, or two to anything being hyped now
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(*The Enthusiast Network)
 
And if I liked the HD800 / 800S for my personal musical preference before, does it make ANY difference, if it on or off the wall? ... see picture above
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It makes a HUGE difference. I can no longer listen to my HD800S. I will immediately spend $4000 on the Utopia so I can start listening to music again 
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Aug 29, 2016 at 11:07 AM Post #23,440 of 28,976
You're never off the wall. You're just retired.
 
My wall of fame is whether or not a headphone has made me catch myself dancing like an idiot along to the music.
 
Caught myself a few times with the SD800. Have yet to with the LCD-3F.
 
Aug 29, 2016 at 11:24 AM Post #23,441 of 28,976
I think Tyll is in a bit of a tough place with the HD800.  In some sense he's forced to put things on the wall as purely unmodded/unEQd/with a variety of amps.  I think Tyll would agree that setup just right, the HD800 meets or exceeds basically everything out there.  However, he can't really rate it as "if you do X mod or EQ, and use one of these certain amps then..." He has to rate it as is, and I think most of us HD800 lovers even agree that it needs something to solve a couple of its issues.  However easily those issues are solved with DSP, amp synergy or mods, they're still issues he has to take into account for the wall of fame.  
 
So, while I think the HD800, in the system I have it in, would likely blow the doors off any Elear setup, I also recognize you can't really do that for the purpose of ranking/review/WoF.  Yes, it's easier to fix frequency response issues (which the HD800 has) than it is lack of soundstage and resolution (which the Elear has, at least in comparison to the HD800).
 
(I also recognize that some people don't mind the HD800's stock frequency response, or even like it, but I think we can all recognize that the generalized consensus that Tyll has to play to when it comes to FR is that it's too strident/bright in a purely off the shelf into a neutral amp scenario).
 
Aug 29, 2016 at 11:47 AM Post #23,442 of 28,976
I'm doing less EQ over time, not more. I'm not against it at all, I just find myself acclimating well to its signature (and, as you know, K1000).
 
Aug 29, 2016 at 1:37 PM Post #23,443 of 28,976
You guys got it wrong. They're still on the WoF and right at the top of the page
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http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-full-size-open
 

 
Aug 29, 2016 at 2:16 PM Post #23,444 of 28,976
Aug 29, 2016 at 2:30 PM Post #23,445 of 28,976
  I think Tyll is in a bit of a tough place with the HD800.  In some sense he's forced to put things on the wall as purely unmodded/unEQd/with a variety of amps.  I think Tyll would agree that setup just right, the HD800 meets or exceeds basically everything out there.  However, he can't really rate it as "if you do X mod or EQ, and use one of these certain amps then..." He has to rate it as is, and I think most of us HD800 lovers even agree that it needs something to solve a couple of its issues.  However easily those issues are solved with DSP, amp synergy or mods, they're still issues he has to take into account for the wall of fame.  
 
So, while I think the HD800, in the system I have it in, would likely blow the doors off any Elear setup, I also recognize you can't really do that for the purpose of ranking/review/WoF.  Yes, it's easier to fix frequency response issues (which the HD800 has) than it is lack of soundstage and resolution (which the Elear has, at least in comparison to the HD800).
 
(I also recognize that some people don't mind the HD800's stock frequency response, or even like it, but I think we can all recognize that the generalized consensus that Tyll has to play to when it comes to FR is that it's too strident/bright in a purely off the shelf into a neutral amp scenario).

 
Seems Tyll felt the 800 S fixed the key problem with the 800 unmodded and that was the trouble spike yet still felt the utopia was significantly superior to the 800 S in almost every department.
 
They must be some pretty incredible headphones. In terms of setup he seems to use the same amp on all the phones (moon neo 430).. but I wonder if you are right and different amps may make the 800 superior to other phones.
 

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