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post #2221 of 13412

sucks that i couldn't wake up earlier to defend the T1. why does it have so much hate? is it those graphs posted a while ago about some quality issues? or just that its picky about amping?

 

i find my T1 to be right at about the same level as the HD 800. it does sacrifice a bit of soundstage and some accuracy in the bass, but what it has is musicality, a slight warmth in the mids that gives naturalness, and a slightly faster sound than HD 800. with the WA2, theres no harshness in the treble and everything just balances out really nicely, im sure it sounds even better with more expensive amps.

 

 i cant decide which one is better and both get tons of listening time.

the T1 for sure get more listening time than the LCD-2, since the T1 are good with just about any genre of music.

 

but anyways, T1 are very underrated as a flagship. i feel that besides the Ultrasone flagships or D7100, the T1 is viewed as the 2nd worst, and thats just ****ed up!!!! the T1 might not be as technically perfect as LCD-3, HD 800, or some of the others, but its definitely just as fun and enjoyable while still having top level performance. no-reason for it to be viewed as inferior to an HD 650 (an excellent headphone, but seriously?) 


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 4/28/13 at 9:56am
post #2222 of 13412

i wasnt cutting at anybodies musical taste - i was a metalhead for years and fair enough this is the wrong thread but anyway ill probably end up getting both cans  eventually. 

 

i havnt hear wasted years in so long preproman

post #2223 of 13412

To me T1 is a definite improvement from DT880 in some areas like more articulated, hard hitting bass, increased air and details, some weight in midrange (finally), but that freaking 10K spike ruins the party. On some material makes your ears ring.

Beyer should have added some dampening to address that like it was done on DT line.

But there is always hope

 

Felt is ordered, now the wait, if that doesn't work they are leaving.

post #2224 of 13412
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i havnt hear wasted years in so long preproman

Well get it on then!!beerchug.gif

post #2225 of 13412

i seen maiden live 3 times.they were great. have you heard swans cover of number of the beast? 

 

post #2226 of 13412

Nice video,haven't seen it.

Maiden will be one of my main bands.

I am 44 now,and saw them the first time on there wasted years tour in '86.I was 18 back then.

Brings back great memories...

 

Bit off topic,I know,getting a bit "midlife crisis acting"

Just enjoy your HD800's
 

post #2227 of 13412
I owned 2 T1s and they sounded completely different, honestly. My first pair sounded just like Dubstep Girl described (but NOT faster than HD800 lol), and my second pair sounded like crap in comparison. Even my ZDSE couldn't work magic on them. There were definitely major variances between them, through all gear I tried them on. My 'good' pair I would definitely say they were Masters of transparency, with amazing mids. The 2nd pair were worse than my Pro 2900s in most areas. Go figure. FWIW both had been burned in plenty and were stock...

-Daniel
post #2228 of 13412
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do you like anything Solude ?

 

I am harsh on gear for sure.  If you want something hyped... keep it off my radar :D

 

I like the Audeze cans on mid level gear that can use some love but that also means it has a ceiling.  The Senn 600/650 are other cans that are goto wins for their asking price.  The HD800 is an awesome headphone that DEMANDS top shelf gear.  I do not like it on gear where the Audeze products sound great.  But on great gear... world class giant stompers.

post #2229 of 13412

Back then I couldn't justify dropping 1.5k on the HD800 so I went with the T1. And on my sub-par amp/DAC setup the T1 kills both my Denons for accuracy/balance and sound stage. Vocals simply sound amazing. 

 

The HD800 really requires careful matching. Last time I heard it out of a $1700 DAC it was nothing but a sibilant mess with no bass. I'm hoping to give it a second chance, once I got my finances get sorted out. But then I'd be tempted to get a TH900 first. I wonder if this game of phones ever ends? :P 

post #2230 of 13412
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I wonder if this game of phones ever ends? :P 

 

Yes, yes there is.  It's called my sig :P

post #2231 of 13412
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The HD800 really requires careful matching. Last time I heard it out of a $1700 DAC it was nothing but a sibilant mess with no bass. 

Dunno what made you think it was gonna sound good out of a dac that cheap.. schoolboy error my friend rolleyes.gif

 

I'm currently listening to Marley's 'Natty Dread' on a 24bit vinyl rip, through a Dacmagic and Audio gd amp and it sounds ****ing amazing. Smooth as butter, deep tight bass.

 

No money no cry... :) 

post #2232 of 13412

All this T1 antipathy is yet another indication that there must be variance between different T1's. The T1 I own fed by an dynahi or csp2+ is tremendous, and while a step or two behind my HD800 and HE6, the disparity isn't anywhere near so great as some have suggested here.

 

I've heard the HD800 out of a GSX mk2, which was on a similar level as my Zana Deux (preamp) > Beta 22, or put another way the best I've heard the HD800. I've heard the HE6 out of a Pass Labs X150 and my current Odyssey Stratos Plus/Pioneer SX1280, which is the best I've heard the HE6. I've heard the Stax out of a Blue Hawaii, which is the best I've heard the Stax. Apart from the Stax, which is another ballgame, the T1 is competitive, a few degrees behind. Try the T1 out of a Dynahi and see if you still find it boring. There must be variances in the T1's; it's the only thing that can account for the tremendous gap that keeps users that otherwise agree (for the most apart) in their findings.

post #2233 of 13412

how big are the variances is another question. since theres also people who say different hd 800s sound different, but all hd 800s i've heard sounded the same to me. 

post #2234 of 13412

I've seen some T1s measure a full ~5dB differently than another.

post #2235 of 13412
^ I wonder how can they pass QC with that kind of variance.
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