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post #2176 of 12415
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post

T1. But the HD800 is a different level once amped right.

 

HD800 is on another level at all times.  The T1 is a terrible headphone, or more precisely, a 'me too' headphone that performs worse than every other 'real' Beyer.  The T1 has a very high noise floor, rings like crazy, has high distortion and in relation to the question, is drier and has a rough spikey treble.  There's a reason the hype train on the T1 hasn't survived over the years.

post #2177 of 12415

Swannee River by Michael Kaeshammer from his first album Blue Keys has bass notes on the piano that growl.

 

Of all my headphones, the HD800 are he only ones that can reproduce the subharmonics.

 

I have stood behind pianists and used to revel in the sonics.

post #2178 of 12415
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

HD800 is on another level at all times.  The T1 is a terrible headphone, or more precisely, a 'me too' headphone that performs worse than every other 'real' Beyer.  The T1 has a very high noise floor, rings like crazy, has high distortion and in relation to the question, is drier and has a rough spikey treble.  There's a reason the hype train on the T1 hasn't survived over the years.

I didn't mind the T1. But agreed the HD800 is a lot better.

post #2179 of 12415
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 The T1 is a terrible headphone, or more precisely, a 'me too' headphone that performs worse than every other 'real' Beyer. 

 

i presume you tried it with tubes right? i was under the impression that the t1 sounds amazing with tubes.

post #2180 of 12415

Solude  

                             

did you not like the wa22 with the t1s? 

post #2181 of 12415
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

HD800 is on another level at all times.  The T1 is a terrible headphone, or more precisely, a 'me too' headphone that performs worse than every other 'real' Beyer.  The T1 has a very high noise floor, rings like crazy, has high distortion and in relation to the question, is drier and has a rough spikey treble.  There's a reason the hype train on the T1 hasn't survived over the years.

 

Warning:

The above may sound quite harsh, and by that I don't mean Solude's comment. :)

 

My T1s got sold within the month, never been impressed...


Edited by negura - 4/28/13 at 4:34am
post #2182 of 12415

you have used them with tubes negura

post #2183 of 12415

Tubes won't somehow manage to cancel out the ringing and noise from the housing.  You might well enjoy the sound, but that doesn't make it high performance.

post #2184 of 12415

i wish there were a place where i could hear them plugged into a wa2. they were gonna be my next headphone but now i dunno. this site can be bad for that. one minute your sure about something then the more you read themore  uncertain you become! what to do?

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And the Wa22 ain't much of a stellar amp for the T1's either.
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

you have used them with tubes negura

 

 

I've listened to my T1s on the V200, which is a very good SS amp, warmer and smooth sounding. It emulates the tube sound a bit. The DAC I was pairing them at the time had tubes and also warmer smooth sounding. The issue was not with the amping is it has very good synergy with the T1s to start with as many would attest. I just don't like the headphones, for several SQ reasons: whatever you'd normally do they still have a hot sounding treble where they shouldn't. The voices were distant sounding, and that was not that recording as my other high-end headphones don't do that.

 

If you're dead set to tune your gear to make the headphones sound better, you could, if you've got that leverage. You could even get the T1s to sound brilliant I am sure. I just don't want to mess the setup that much stuff considering I have other gear I am fully enjoying out of the box or almost. Then there's the price - the T1s are overpriced for what they do.

 

The HD800s treble can also sound bright sometimes, and many times it's from the recording, and a bit related to the headphone cup materials. But with no mods/no fine tuning, I definetely much more enjoy the HD800s  treble than the T1s.


Edited by negura - 4/28/13 at 5:59am
post #2187 of 12415

I very much like my HD800s better than my T1s "in all areas".  However, I don't have a noise or ringing issue with my pair of T1s that I can detect.  It might show up in the plots and graphs "sure" but that doesn't mean it will rear it's ugly head in my listening sessions.  

 

IMO the T1's are a good headphone just not on the level of the HD800s.  


Edited by preproman - 4/28/13 at 6:04am
post #2188 of 12415
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

i wish there were a place where i could hear them plugged into a wa2. they were gonna be my next headphone but now i dunno. this site can be bad for that. one minute your sure about something then the more you read themore  uncertain you become! what to do?

Take everything you read here with a Dead Sea of salt. Everyone has an opinion and some are expressed with a large degree of hyperbole.

Mine is that the T1 is definitely not a terrible headphone. If you like a lush, full, sound that is musical but still resolving, and you already have a WA2, you should try to test out the T1. It really brings out the best of the Woo.
post #2189 of 12415

T1: For me it's the least impressive 'flagship' of the bunch. Non offensive, but nothing special either. It reads as boring, personally

post #2190 of 12415

i have the hd650 and thats as high fedelity as i go for the moment but im sure when i get the T1s in the coming months it will be another step up the ladder. i could go straight for the hd800 but that wouldnt be as much fun IMO. i wanna have both and im araid if i get hd800 i might not get t1s. 

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