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Originally Posted by Frank I
View Post I also stress  system because you need to pay attention to the interconnect  and USB cables as well. 

 

I much concur Frank's reply but in particular with the above, which some people tend to ignore knowing or unknowingly. This is something I can confirm especially after the head-fi meet today. I would also add headphones cables to this list as very important.

 

Now there's a downside with tuning your system to suit some heapdhones, as you may find it improperly tuned for some others. Unless you own multiple sets of gear and ... and here we go. :) Tube rolling could be a good work-around though. Some will love tuning their system and some won't. Everyone to their own. I am in the first camp.

 

No disadvatanges with getting a nice headphone cable with great synergy for your headphones though. Other than cost. :)


Edited by negura - 4/27/13 at 6:19pm
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Originally Posted by MorbidToaster View Post



Absolutely not (IMO I guess)...The T1 was sibilant and extremely fatiquing when I heard them. The HD800 with the right amp does all of that though.

That actually sounds like the HD800 witha good tube amp. The T1 sounded harsh on both amps I tried them with.


T1 has some ringing going on in the treble region, so yeah, on bright material they are harsher than HD800.

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Cables are a sensitive topic here...popcorn.gif
 

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Cables are a sensitive topic here...popcorn.gif
 

 

Thanks. I am aware and perhaps it should be desensitized a little bit. :) I would never intentionally withold information that I think benefits everyone's audio experience. 

 

We are are just coming off a meet where some of us and more importantly some very qualified people made a certain assessment on this topic. Enjoy the read and the video from around 4:35, http://www.head-fi.org/t/661573/london-head-fi-meet-april-2013

 

The differences and improvements those headphones cables made compared to stock, were noticeable and not one person disputed this. Including several cables sceptics. All it took was to just listen.

 

That said, on any given topic in this world you won't get everyone to agree. But I accept that and YMMV and the usual filler stuff.


Edited by negura - 4/27/13 at 7:37pm
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I had to put off my HD800 order for now but I did have a chance to check one out today. I first plugged them into the Lyr and they were seriously shrill and V shaped like the K702 I had. My ears started to get sore after about 10 minutes. Then I plugged them into the Soloist SL and wow what a difference. Everything smoothed out and most of the harshness and sibilance in the treble was gone. It did lose a slight amount of bass quantity but the quality went up. The only thing I'm hesitant about is that on some tracks they still can't provide that low end thump and groove like the LCD-2. Overall though I was very surprised at the different the amp made.

By the way is it possible to lessen the clamping by bending the headband? I didn't want to do it the ones I tried out since they weren't mine.
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post

Owning the hD 800 and LCD 2.2 and had the T1 twice. I find them all very system dependent. The HD800 and the T1 IMO sound best with Tube amplifiers. I also prefer them listening to a great source. I have never found the T1 or theHD800  harsh in my system and I also stress  system because you need to pay attention to the interconnect  and USB cables as well. When the system is right the T1 and HD800 are reference can and IMO compete with any headphone at any price.  If you want to hear accurate and detail and exactly what a recording is doing or more important for me also is what a component is doing the T1 and HD800  are valuable reference headphones. The LCD2 is more forgiving and has that famous warmer planar tone that keep you addicted.  They are all fantastic headphones.

 

 

+1 

 

i find T1 and HD 800 can both be smooth and non-fatiguing with the right amp. 


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 4/27/13 at 8:12pm
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Originally Posted by negura View Post

 

Thanks. I am aware and perhaps it should be desensitized a little bit. :) I would never intentionally withold information that I think benefits everyone's audio experience. 

 

We are are just coming off a meet where some of us and more importantly some very qualified people made a certain assessment on this topic. Enjoy the read and the video from around 4:35, http://www.head-fi.org/t/661573/london-head-fi-meet-april-2013

 

The differences and improvements those headphones cables made compared to stock, were noticeable and not one person disputed this. Including several cables sceptics. All it took was to just listen.

 

That said, on any given topic in this world you won't get everyone to agree. But I accept that and YMMV and the usual filler stuff.


Thanks for the link....and I am a cable convert myself ever since I used a Cardas for my HD800 and most obvious a ALO chain mail for the hopeless Audeze cable.And then not to mention the interconnects etc.....great expensive fun but soooo worth it....if you ONLY listen with your ears!

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great video link i hadnt seen that one  silversurfer616

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Originally Posted by technica18 View Post

I had to put off my HD800 order for now but I did have a chance to check one out today. I first plugged them into the Lyr and they were seriously shrill and V shaped like the K702 I had. My ears started to get sore after about 10 minutes. Then I plugged them into the Soloist SL and wow what a difference. Everything smoothed out and most of the harshness and sibilance in the treble was gone. It did lose a slight amount of bass quantity but the quality went up. The only thing I'm hesitant about is that on some tracks they still can't provide that low end thump and groove like the LCD-2. Overall though I was very surprised at the different the amp made.

By the way is it possible to lessen the clamping by bending the headband? I didn't want to do it the ones I tried out since they weren't mine.
In a properly complemented system, the HD800 has better bass than the LCD-2. I know because I had them both side by side.

Lessen the clamp? HD800s are by far the most comfortable full size headphone out there. Not sure what you were doing, but you had to have had them on wrong.
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Also have right now the HD800 and LCD2 Rev2 both with a balanced ALO chain mail through a Phoenix and NFB17.32 DAC.....and I like the Sennheiser so much more.

Soundstage and clarity.....and lots of bass and wonderful treble(I hate Grados).
 

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....and wonderful treble(I hate Grados).

 

Haha. Just had to.

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Also, you don't need uber high end gear for the HD800's to shine imo. I have a big warm sound from mine on my mid price ss amps and dacs. A little too warm on occasion... The treble is detailed and well extended, but there is no fatigue involved. (unless you are listening to 1950's jazz perhaps, but even an LCD2 would struggle here) Nothing compared to say AKG, Grado, Beyer, Denon. 

 

Still baffles me all the talk of harshness... Don't think my 42 year old ears are that shot. I still find all the other treble centric phones fatiguing confused_face.gif

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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

Lessen the clamp? HD800s are by far the most comfortable full size headphone out there. Not sure what you were doing, but you had to have had them on wrong.

 

I actually wish the HD800 had a tighter clamp... this is probably my only "gripe" with the HD800.

 

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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post


In a properly complemented system, the HD800 has better bass than the LCD-2. I know because I had them both side by side.

Lessen the clamp? HD800s are by far the most comfortable full size headphone out there. Not sure what you were doing, but you had to have had them on wrong.

 

I am very satisied with my HD800 bass and it is top notch, but not sure it's better than the LCD-2s. And I think I did complement my system well enough. I personally think there's a certain extension and texture that has this one go to the LCD-2s. There is also more bass quantity I think.

 

I agree regarding the clamp, the HD800s are the epitome of confort. Sometimes they make you forget you're wearing them. But I guess there's always something that's not gonna work for someone. I just want to make sure this is how it's understood by people who are potentially helped in their decisions reading these threads.


Edited by negura - 4/28/13 at 3:28am
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The bass of hd800 is like I can hear the vibration of the drum membrane, the air coming out from the drum cylinder, some bass sound slightly boxy, rather than just 'dung dang dung' ... amazing ... That's! what I called texture.
Edited by RedBull - 4/28/13 at 3:09am
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