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my moon audio cable arrived ^^

nice. Please post some impressions. Drew does great work.

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my moon audio cable arrived ^^

 

 

Nice LS50's! Are you using them as near field monitors?

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Nice LS50's! Are you using them as near field monitors?

sadly I am.

 

They are great as near field speakers though, but I reckon they would sound even better with proper spacing between them.

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Nice LS50's! Are you using them as near field monitors?

sadly I am.

 

They are great as near field speakers though, but I reckon they would sound even better with proper spacing between them.

I am curious about how low they can go for their size. The reviews are great for them.

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I've been looking for an end-game amp for my Hd800 and tried several very pricey ones. Then last week I traded some Beyers for a stock Matrix M-Stage. I have to say that it sounds obscenely good with the HD800. Better, in fact, than many expensive amps. Out-of-head imaging and rich, fleshy sound. A really compelling combination. I've tricked out my Crack with super-rare tubes and was considering Speedball and cap upgrades, but it doesn't even come close to the cheap little Matrix. And I detest solid-state. Interestingly, the Matrix sounds congested and unexciting with the HD650, but is magical with the HD800. Of course I can hear the grain and lack of total clarity and air, compared to, say, the Stratus, but so what. Most amps simply sound boring with the HD800—they make the phones sound threadbare and gray. I'm beginning to think that the HD800 simply pairs well with a few amps it likes and doesn't with many more. And the expensive ones don't necessarily come out ahead.


Edited by mink70 - 4/26/13 at 11:10am
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Not suprised. The m-Stage is a ridiculously good match for the K70x series, which have a lot in common with the Senn imo. P86 also claims the HD800/m-Stage combo is extremely synergistic. Do you plan on trying various opamps?

-Daniel
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I've been looking for an end-game amp for my Hd800 and tried several very pricey ones. Then last week I traded some Beyers for a stock Matrix M-Stage. I have to say that it sounds obscenely good with the HD800. Better, in fact, than many expensive amps. Out-of-head imaging and rich, fleshy sound. A really compelling combination. I've tricked out my Crack with super-rare tubes and was considering Speedball and cap upgrades, but it doesn't even come close to the cheap little Matrix. And I detest solid-state. Interestingly, the Matrix sounds congested and unexciting with the HD650, but is magical with the HD800. Of course I can hear the grain and lack of total clarity and air, compared to, say, the Stratus, but so what. Most amps simply sound boring with the HD800—they make the phones sound threadbare and gray. I'm beginning to think that the HD800 simply pairs well with a few amps it likes and doesn't with many more. And the expensive ones don't necessarily come out ahead.

Nice find.  According to most reports, though, you haven't heard what your Crack can do until you have added the Speedball.  Several people who, like you, have tried some very expensive gear, have said that the Crack with Speedball is one of the best pairings with an HD800 they have heard.  Have to move up to Eddie Current type amps to do better.

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Nice find.  According to most reports, though, you haven't heard what your Crack can do until you have added the Speedball.  Several people who, like you, have tried some very expensive gear, have said that the Crack with Speedball is one of the best pairings with an HD800 they have heard.  Have to move up to Eddie Current type amps to do better.

 

*ahem* Decware would be the first stop before EC. ;)

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I also think that the Senn's sound very good with the M-stage. I've tried the two most popular opamps Opa627 bias and LM4562, these both add a nice but very subtle change in refinement. But I also think that my Audio gd C2.2 (with opa627 fitted) is better. Another cheap SS amp. Larger, airier soundstage and is slightly warmer. I've mentioned before that this amp is very 'tube like' in its presentation. The M-stage can sound a little more aggressive at the top and the overall tone sounds a fraction cheaper in comparison. And by 'sounds cheaper' y'all know wodda mean right?? :D 

 

I am going to be looking at tubes with the HD800's though, as in the past my journey with the 650's climaxed with the aid of a very powerful otl amp that ringed every ounce of goodness out of them. But until I can afford something special, I am very happy with the sound I'm getting with the Audio gd, and I'd recommend it whole heartedly to anyone on a budget as an alternative to the M-stage. 

 

Must be said however, the M-stage is a great amp for the price. A remarkable bargain. But, just like when you are getting acquainted with a new lover for example, and everything seems to be going swimmingly.. Certain little 'quirks' that have been registered can soon turn to annoyance if not 'nipped in the bud', so to speak.

For instance, a slight hardness discovered in the treble of a cheapo amp might not be dissimilar to a lover indulging in a little 'playfulness' on a certain sensitive area and (whether by accident or intention) allows their teeth to get involved.... Nooo nooo. Sorry but no.

This for me is why the treble sensitive HD800's require a little heedfulness within that area, because a small but niggly annoyance can soon lead to all-out irritation.

 

imo..  

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Nice find.  According to most reports, though, you haven't heard what your Crack can do until you have added the Speedball.  Several people who, like you, have tried some very expensive gear, have said that the Crack with Speedball is one of the best pairings with an HD800 they have heard.  Have to move up to Eddie Current type amps to do better.

 

 


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*ahem* Decware would be the first stop before EC. ;)

 

 

I might be biased, but I definitely agree with Nick here.  I think my Liquid Glass is as good as it gets with the HD800 (others are great as well, it becomes more about preference rather than actually better), and the Decware only gives up a little at < 1/3 the price.

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Can you be specific? Which Decware? I heard Frank's Taboo III at the New York meet, and while it was very good, it didn't strike me as a natural pairing with the HD800. 

 

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*ahem* Decware would be the first stop before EC. ;)

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Just ordered the OPA627 biased into class A on an adapter from Tam Audio. Interested in the results. Anyone who's tried care to share?

 

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Not suprised. The m-Stage is a ridiculously good match for the K70x series, which have a lot in common with the Senn imo. P86 also claims the HD800/m-Stage combo is extremely synergistic. Do you plan on trying various opamps?

-Daniel

Edited by mink70 - 4/26/13 at 3:11pm
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Also, I have a DNA Sonett 2 arriving soon for a listen, which is the Decware ballpark price-wise, and Donald North mentioned that he had voiced it with an HD800, among other phones. He thought they worked well together. Will report. Anyone heard the pairing?

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*ahem* Decware would be the first stop before EC. ;)

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I haven't heard the Taboo MKIII, but I didn't like the Taboo MKII with HD800 at all... so I can't comment. I'm not optimistic but time will tell. The Taboo was designed for lower-impedance cans.

 

Decware recommendation is using the CSP+ OTL/preamp with the HD800. Beautiful match, especially for the price.


Edited by Nick Dangerous - 4/26/13 at 3:18pm
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you went there...

 

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For instance, a slight hardness discovered in the treble of a cheapo amp might not be dissimilar to a lover indulging in a little 'playfulness' on a certain sensitive area and (whether by accident or intention) allows their teeth to get involved.... Nooo nooo. Sorry but no.
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