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post #1591 of 25105
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post

Thanks for your opinion but I been dojng this for a long time and I hear major differences and if you happy with your system it is after all you system. In my system the cables make major differences especially interconnects. happy your happy like I said YOMVbiggrin.gif

 

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post #1592 of 25105
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post

Thanks for your opinion but I been dojng this for a long time and I hear major differences and if you happy with your system it is after all you system. In my system the cables make major differences especially interconnects. happy your happy like I said YOMV:D
+2. If ur not hearing it, ur gear is not sensitive enough. Or ur ears.....
post #1593 of 25105
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Originally Posted by Cante Ista View Post


+2. If ur not hearing it, ur gear is not sensitive enough. Or ur ears.....

 

As I said - I can hear a slight variation in frequency response... Not any real improvement.

 

If there are MAJOR improvements, it must be measurable... easily.


Edited by RustA - 4/4/13 at 1:34pm
post #1594 of 25105

Everything can't be measured.

post #1595 of 25105
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Everything can't be measured.

 

Proof?

post #1596 of 25105

Major is a bit strong of a word for cables.  They make a difference since there are measurable differences in cables themselves but let's not forget that the amp and source have gimpy little copper traces, tons of solder and solid bare copper or inexpensive twisted cable to the jacks.  In the case of transformer output amps... wire wrapped over wire in great lengths.  That 1m interconnect is not making a Major difference.

 

In other news, you are also correct in that RustA's rig couldn't resolve the difference anyway.  But lets not go down the road of selling the idea that a cable can change a rig more than a change in source or amp or can.

post #1597 of 25105
help, I got HD800 10 hours ago and I can not take my ........ I'm 'only with the mdac :)
this does not feel any peak on the high ... just would like a little 'more' body ..... I'll find 'an amp.

Edited by kiwikaki - 4/4/13 at 1:45pm
post #1598 of 25105
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Major is a bit strong of a word for cables.  They make a difference since there are measurable differences in cables themselves but let's not forget that the amp and source have gimpy little copper traces, tons of solder and solid bare copper or inexpensive twisted cable to the jacks.  In the case of transformer output amps... wire wrapped over wire in great lengths.  That 1m interconnect is not making a Major difference.

 

In other news, you are also correct in that RustA's rig couldn't resolve the difference anyway.  But lets not go down the road of selling the idea that a cable can change a rig more than a change in source or amp or can.

 

You win, I lost. Congrats! cool.gif

post #1599 of 25105
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Originally Posted by RustA View Post

 

Proof?

Sound Stage..

post #1600 of 25105

Try plugging in some Van Den Hul cables. You will immediately notice a disappearance of treble and more bass. A definite difference, but it's not really neutral.

post #1601 of 25105
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Sound Stage..

 

Soundstage is subjective and frequency response dependent (try to play with EQ or crossfeed to find out)... It's not something that you could ever measure objectively, of course.

post #1602 of 25105
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Sound Stage..


Just switch between the hd800 and any headphone, you'd realize that the soundstage is always  bigger regardless of the cable.

Anyway, who cares of minor difference, that most likely are in your mind ?

People that just want to spend bucketload of money.

post #1603 of 25105
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Originally Posted by maarek99 View Post

Try plugging in some Van Den Hul cables. You will immediately notice a disappearance of treble and more bass. A definite difference, but it's not really neutral.

 

Difference is not necessarily equal improvement, that's all I am trying to say.

 

Improvement would be something like lower noise level - and not only a change in frequency response. Better synergy is of course possible to hear subjectively but it's not equal to objectively better results.


Edited by RustA - 4/4/13 at 2:00pm
post #1604 of 25105
Let's change course from cables.
post #1605 of 25105

Edit.

 

You're right. lets change course.

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