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100%.....I agree and feel the exact same way as you do  biggrin.gif

It's simply an audiophile's dream come true. Superior recording. Actually I of course don't know how you feel about progressive rock, but the 2013 album of the year of the Prog music awards, Steven Wilson's: The Raven That Refused To Sing is not only a great piece of progressive rock music but its also an unbelievable recording too! Alan Parsons helped produce the album along with Wilson. It's unbelievable sound quality. I find no flaws. I use the ARCAM irDAC, Burson Soloist SL along with my 800's and I find its absolutely sonic bliss. Give it a spin if it interests you. smily_headphones1.gif
Happy listening.

Thanks, i may give this a go.  :smile:

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Hey Mike!

 

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LOVIN it on the HD800s!! I've been experiencing such AMAZING separation, soundstaging (even more-so than usual) and dynamic gestalt from my HD800s w/ these NuForce HA-200 stereo headphone amps in monoblock configuration - it's just SILLY how great music sounds through this system!!

 

  

 

 

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It's always fun to see someone really enjoying their gear!

 

Serious question, though:  What will be missing, if I purchase only one HA-200, instead of using two as monoblocks?  My admittedly non-existent experience with such configurations leaves me thinking that the only sonic benefits would be those that come with having twice the power and truly balanced operation, instead of a common ground going to each transducer.

 

Despite my limited experience (with only two amps that allow me to switch between balanced and single-ended), I can't really say I've ever been able to hear any improvements related to the lack of a common ground, but I can vigorously attest to hearing improvements related to an increase in power that's had by going balanced - with improved dynamics and bass control - enjoyed only when the power output of running single-ended is truly insufficient for a relatively inefficient headphone.  

 

In other words, when the headphone is sufficiently efficient, as with the OPPO PM-1 on a powerful amp, like the OPPO HA-1, which provides plenty of power at the 6.3mm jack - I cannot hear any improvements when moving the PM-1 to the 4-Pin XLR jack (which bumps the power from 500 mw rms into 32-Ohms to 2000 mw, per factory specs.  But with the sufficienly inefficient LCD-2 rev.1, I can indeed here improvements when going from the TRS jack tothe 4-Pin XLR jack (when going from 455 mW to 1817 mW into its 50-Ohm load).  

 

So... given that the HD800 is not particularly inefficient (certainly not like an HE-6 and I don't think even as inefficient as my LCD-2 rev.1), I'm wondering if your dual HA-200 monoblock configuration is improving dynamics and bass control (vs. running with one HA-200), or is it something else that's justifying the setup?  (I'm not able to make any sense of the HA-200's power specs.)

 

Thanks!

 

Mike

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It's always fun to see someone really enjoying their gear!

 

Serious question, though:  What will be missing, if I purchase only one HA-200, instead of using two as monoblocks?  My admittedly non-existent experience with such configurations leaves me thinking that the only sonic benefits would be those that come with having twice the power and truly balanced operation, instead of a common ground going to each transducer.

 

Despite my limited experience (with only two amps that allow me to switch between balanced and single-ended), I can't really say I've ever been able to hear any improvements related to the lack of a common ground, but I can vigorously attest to hearing improvements related to an increase in power that's had by going balanced - with improved dynamics and bass control - enjoyed only when the power output of running single-ended is truly insufficient for a relatively inefficient headphone.  

 

In other words, when the headphone is sufficiently efficient, as with the OPPO PM-1 on a powerful amp, like the OPPO HA-1, which provides plenty of power at the 6.3mm jack - I cannot hear any improvements when moving the PM-1 to the 4-Pin XLR jack (which bumps the power from 500 mw rms into 32-Ohms to 2000 mw, per factory specs.  But with the sufficienly inefficient LCD-2 rev.1, I can indeed here improvements when going from the TRS jack tothe 4-Pin XLR jack (when going from 455 mW to 1817 mW into its 50-Ohm load).  

 

So... given that the HD800 is not particularly inefficient (certainly not like an HE-6 and I don't think even as inefficient as my LCD-2 rev.1), I'm wondering if your dual HA-200 monoblock configuration is improving dynamics and bass control (vs. running with one HA-200), or is it something else that's justifying the setup?  (I'm not able to make any sense of the HA-200's power specs.)

 

Thanks!

 

Mike

IMO, its not so much the power as much as the filling out of detail (or detail retrieval) and getting better layering. My experience has not been with the set up that Mr. Mercer has but within the genre of headphone amps (and from headphone to integrated amps) so I could be off base here.

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Thanks for that, kothganesh.

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Well guys I took you advise a couple pages back on the amp and cable.

Cancelled the order on the Lyr 2 and Bifrost Uber combo and am getting the Mjolnir/Gungnir combo along with the Norne Vanquish cable :)

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Well guys I took you advise a couple pages back on the amp and cable.

Cancelled the order on the Lyr 2 and Bifrost Uber combo and am getting the Mjolnir/Gungnir combo along with the Norne Vanquish cable :)


did u consider the Valhalla 2 ? or u are going all balanced?

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Well guys I took you advise a couple pages back on the amp and cable.
Cancelled the order on the Lyr 2 and Bifrost Uber combo and am getting the Mjolnir/Gungnir combo along with the Norne Vanquish cable smily_headphones1.gif

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did u consider the Valhalla 2 ? or u are going all balanced?

 

All balanced. This will be my first balanced system :)

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Yeah it did lol...

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Originally Posted by RingingEars View Post
 

Well guys I took you advise a couple pages back on the amp and cable.

Cancelled the order on the Lyr 2 and Bifrost Uber combo and am getting the Mjolnir/Gungnir combo along with the Norne Vanquish cable :)

 

Have you listened to this combo before?  If you were considering Lyr 2 and now switching to this combo, IMO, you are going down a different path as far as sound signature's concerned.

I prefer the Lyr for HD800.  Mjolnir/Gungnir didn't get me going at all.

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Many seem to despise the pairing Mjolnir/Gungnir makes with the HD800. Some says the problem is the Mjolnir, while some other says it's the Gungnir.

 

@koiloco what did you not like from the Schiit stack?

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