Head-Fi.org › Forums › Summit-Fi (High-End Audio) › High-end Audio Forum › The (new) HD800 Impressions Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

The (new) HD800 Impressions Thread - Page 95

post #1411 of 14676
Quote:
Originally Posted by jronan2 View Post

Those of you who have bought custom colored HD800's from colorware, just wanted to know if it was worth it? Do they do good work that will last? I'm thinking of getting a custom colored HD800. After messing around with the paints, I can't even look at the stock HD 800. I know it's all about how they sound but I thought getting them painted would be a good idea since the stock ones chip pretty easily from what I have heard.

 

I had been planning to buy some custom HD800's from Colorware, but ended up saving some money and buying an older used pair (with a bit a chipping no less).  I may eventually go the Colorware route still.  I believe Maxvla has had his all-black Colorware HD800's for a while, and there was certainly no chipping when I saw them in person.  They looked great, and it seemed like the finish would be more durable.  Seeing one in person definitely did nothing to dissuade me from going the Colorware route.  If I hadn't suddenly got the urge to try to conserve money, I'd be waiting on a custom job from Colorware right now.

post #1412 of 14676
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDCLXVI View Post

The HD800s are on my head right now.. listening to Coastal Grooves by Blood Orange and it is superb biggrin.gif
Yeah, I had sense, they were great, till I listened to gradolabs ps1000's, they are in a completely different league.
post #1413 of 14676
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnydeal View Post


Yeah, I had sense, they were great, till I listened to gradolabs ps1000's, they are in a completely different league.

 

I'm not sure I quite follow your sentence structure.

post #1414 of 14676
Quote:
Originally Posted by NightFlight View Post

SS and tube alike suffer from component selection and arrangement and implementation. Source material plays the biggest role. IMHO new tubes take about 100hrs to break in, if not a little longer to settle fully. Same can be said for the whole chain in fact. Your 800s storage box it came in makes a fantastic hush box. Run 'em for a couple hundred hours in there and come back and see after. To me, there was significant improvement. *shrug* YMMV.

I bought a Schiit Asgard with the 800s for comparison to the Lyr, just for Schiits and giggles. The Asgard was a bit shrill and shrieky.  Beside the Lyr, the Asgard I managed to test in at most 10 minute spurts, stretched days apart.  My brother identified the issue when I sent it to him. Apparently so did Schiit in the Asgard 2. *shrug*.   You can say its the Asgard SS amp and the HD800s are a bad match, and that SS amp does better with a darker headphone that isn't quite as revealing in the highs.

I think the Asgard 1/2 are just a bad match to the hd800s in general. I have heard SS sound really good with the hd800, like I say, my Denon AVR is just great with them on movies/games/sports & armchair listening. People seem to like the Violectric and GS-X amps with them a lot. The Schiit Lyr is nowhere near the level of performance of a V200 or GS-X though.
post #1415 of 14676

Whether something is worth it to someone or not is purely preference and personal opinion. If you don't like stock colors, I don't know why you're asking this lol. 

 

I live by this rule: If in doubt, DO it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jronan2 View Post

Those of you who have bought custom colored HD800's from colorware, just wanted to know if it was worth it? Do they do good work that will last? I'm thinking of getting a custom colored HD800. After messing around with the paints, I can't even look at the stock HD 800. I know it's all about how they sound but I thought getting them painted would be a good idea since the stock ones chip pretty easily from what I have heard.

post #1416 of 14676

Ah, the usual Head-Fi hyperbole. The Lyr isn't "no match" for V200, though I can't say for GS-X. Honestly, improvements are not as night and day as you make it out to be, thus your post is misleading and trapping people into spending more. 

 

Asgard 2 was great with HD800, but Lyr sounds a bit more musical. V200 is good but not that much better. 

 

Shrill may be due to harsh DAC, not JUST the amp. HD800 is inherently bright, so unless you have some warm wet sounding tubes and tube amps to deal with it, you're still going to get that bright treble...

Quote:
Originally Posted by toschek View Post


I think the Asgard 1/2 are just a bad match to the hd800s in general. I have heard SS sound really good with the hd800, like I say, my Denon AVR is just great with them on movies/games/sports & armchair listening. People seem to like the Violectric and GS-X amps with them a lot. The Schiit Lyr is nowhere near the level of performance of a V200 or GS-X though.

Edited by Girls Generation - 3/28/13 at 10:01pm
post #1417 of 14676
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

LoL, no, not speakers. But they're setting on my shelf rarely played. Not sure if you have young kids, but for me, that horizon is still a ways off. I thought long and hard about upgrading my speakers to the Totem Forests, but I would rarely get to use them with kids who go to bed at 8pm. confused.gif

 

Funny you should mention this... my son is nearly 3 and, as I've recently discovered, sleeps like a rock. So I've cashed in some of my headphone gear and bought some Totem Hawks. I've forgotten how nice loud music on speakers can be.

post #1418 of 14676

I dont mind the A2 with my HD800s,  I think it does a fine job.  I had an oppotuinty this week to listen to my phones and another set of anax 2.0 modded phones on a couple of different amps balanced and SE (one tube amp, also) and there were subtle differences but nothing that tells me so far that there is a huge issue with the A2.  Maybe that will change when the Taboo gets here, but that may be more due to the lucid mode...we'll see.

post #1419 of 14676
Hey I didn't say "no match" maybe nowhere near is a little strong if you consider tube rolling options, but it isn't hyperbolic to say the Violectric V200 is more than marginally better than a Lyr with stock tubes. I don't mind a good debate, but don't put words in my mouth man.
Edited by toschek - 3/28/13 at 10:54pm
post #1420 of 14676

No match, and nowhere is probably more close than not.

Quote:
Originally Posted by toschek View Post

Hey I didn't say "no match" maybe nowhere near is a little strong if you consider tune rolling options, but it isn't hyperbolic to say the Violectric V200 is more than marginally better than a Lyr with stock tubes. I don't mind a good debate, but don't put words in my mouth man.
post #1421 of 14676
Quote:
Originally Posted by jronan2 View Post

Those of you who have bought custom colored HD800's from colorware, just wanted to know if it was worth it? Do they do good work that will last? I'm thinking of getting a custom colored HD800. After messing around with the paints, I can't even look at the stock HD 800. I know it's all about how they sound but I thought getting them painted would be a good idea since the stock ones chip pretty easily from what I have heard.

 

Just note:  When you get the HD800 from colorware you have to pay the full price, or the $1500 price.  I sold my first pair pretty cheap not because of sound but because they chipped very easy.  You have to take very good care of the stock pair.  Chips seem to appear out of nowhere.  After conversations with a coloware rep., I was informed the gloss paint would last longer when compared to the matte paint.  I "MUCH" prefer the gloss paint. That's just me.  

 

Another option would be to buy stock either new or used for less and send them to:  http://referencesounds.com/  He does a good job as well.

 

So yes.  I'm glad I went with coloware and to me, they're very much worth it.  They do a really great job.  

 

 

post #1422 of 14676

Thank you prep for the Info. I think the extra $200 or so is worth it. Does colorware charge for shipping or sales tax?

post #1423 of 14676
Quote:
Originally Posted by jronan2 View Post

Thank you prep for the Info. I think the extra $200 or so is worth it. Does colorware charge for shipping or sales tax?

 

Yup.. +shipping..  Forgot about the tax though..

post #1424 of 14676

I'm still of the experience that the HD800 is very transparent and difficult to drive though not very power hungry and people are translating that into picky.

 

I've had three and the first and second go were terrible.  I'll keep the HD600 instead thank you very much kind of terrible.  So yes the wrong amp and dac can change the HD800 from a $1500 reference headphone to one not worth $400 /facepalm

 

For me anyway the keys to victory are a smooth source, no etch, and an amp with BJT outputs.

post #1425 of 14676
Quote:
Originally Posted by Solude View Post

I've had three and the first and second go were terrible.  I'll keep the HD600 instead thank you very much kind of terrible.  So yes the wrong amp and dac can change the HD800 from a $1500 reference headphone to one not worth $400 /facepalm

They were similar claim for the k701 on the past : people that didn't like them , were dissed and told they use the wrong amp or whatever.

I'm not convinced that the gap between a 400$ headphone  & 1500$ is that huge (at least not a "night and day" difference), it's perhaps why you have to tweak that much your source / amp to convince yourself that the difference is worth the price gap.

And finally, the hd800 has qualities that will be exhibited on all source, such like their huge soundstage.


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 3/29/13 at 7:24am
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: High-end Audio Forum
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Summit-Fi (High-End Audio) › High-end Audio Forum › The (new) HD800 Impressions Thread