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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

^ A valuable post - thanks, Justin_Time!



 



Where did you find all of these amps (in one place) to audition each of them?  



 



(I live near Dallas.)



 



Thanks!



 



Mike

 



I live in Dallas for 25 years. I still have a house there. Now I spend most of my time in Houston for work.

These amps (and headphones) are piled up in my bachelor's pad in the Museum District near Rice University.

It is almost time to unload most of them.

I had a long thread about matching amps, able and headphone about a month ago if your are interested.

PS: A man with one amp knows exactly what the HD800 sounds like, a man with many amps...is never sure.
PPS: BTW where can I find your original post on modifying the HD800? I did the Analux mod. I removed most of the stridency
Edited by Justin_Time - Yesterday at 1:25 pm
post #13967 of 13980

Yes, that's a great thread:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/729976/matching-headphones-cables-amplifiers-harder-than-it-should-be-very-long-post

 

Houston.  So close, yet so far.

 

:-)

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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

I'm also in the camp that isn't after pure neutrality (is there such a thing?). We all have our own tastes, and a slight bass emphasis or treble roll off can make a lot of music sound much more pleasing and ear friendly. And that goes the other way too as some recordings need a little more bite in the treble and less bloom in the bottom etc. But what the HD800 offers imo is a blank canvas to add whatever color you like. 

 

Once you have the headphones and decent dac/source sorted, its all about the fine tuning - and in my experience the amp is the major contributor to finding the right sound for you. It's not that I don't think the dac makes much difference, it does but the added clarity or dynamic/speed etc doesn't mean anything if you don't like the sound of the amplifier. I've heard quite a few amps and dacs over the years now and most dacs have a similar sound, it's the fine details and clarity that is improved with upgrading not the light/shade. At least not in the same level that amps display. 

 

Anyways, I forgot what my original point was... Ah yes!... nope its gone...  

 

Got it. My favoured sound for the Senn's is having a little added warmth, but never enough that it sacrifices anything else. And if I may be so bold as to speak on behalf of us all - This is what we all want! I mean who wants a cold neutrality? Sadists! Thats who! :D  

this is what i was trying to achieve with the sennheiser hd800 . i believe im now satisfied with my set up and i can rest for now.

oppo 103 flac/hi res files --> nad m51 --> decware csp3 ---> alo studio six ---> norne draug2 ---> sennheiser hd800

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Originally Posted by screwdriver View Post
 

this is what i was trying to achieve with the sennheiser hd800 . i believe im now satisfied with my set up and i can rest for now.

oppo 103 flac/hi res files --> nad m51 --> decware csp3 ---> alo studio six ---> norne draug2 ---> sennheiser hd800

I'm well read on the Nad as I'm a big fan of the company and it is my dream dac...  But your set-up is quite original and for that reason I believe you that it is good! I find it hard to be convinced of the use of separate pre-amps in hp set ups but at this level it is understandable if it adds a certain 'something'.   

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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

I'm well read on the Nad as I'm a big fan of the company and it is my dream dac...  But your set-up is quite original and for that reason I believe you that it is good! I find it hard to be convinced of the use of separate pre-amps in hp set ups but at this level it is understandable if it adds a certain 'something'.   

 

I used to think so too until I put my parasound preamp in the chain :D Let's just say I am not going to take it out ever...

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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

 

I have never found a software/firmware EQ that can play a pure sine wave tone without distorting it.

Try downloading and playing one of the 30-second WAV files available at this site:

http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/tone/download/


Here are direct links to the 100Hz WAV and MP3 files - try enabling and disabling your EQ at nearby frequencies as the pure tone plays...  

http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/tone/files/100Hz_44100Hz_16bit_30sec.wav

http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/tone/files/100Hz_44100Hz_16bit_30sec.mp3



I recently read that "Equalizer APO" does not introduce distortion, but I have not yet downloaded it and tried the above test.

 

http://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/

 

Mike

 



I've been using Equalizer APO for awhile, and I haven't noticed any introduced distortion or related issues (and I definitely hear it in a lot of other software EQ's). I definitely recommend you try it when you have the time, though it does have a slightly steep learning curve.
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post

 

I have never found a software/firmware EQ that can play a pure sine wave tone without distorting it.

Try downloading and playing one of the 30-second WAV files available at this site:

http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/tone/download/


Here are direct links to the 100Hz WAV and MP3 files - try enabling and disabling your EQ at nearby frequencies as the pure tone plays...  

http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/tone/files/100Hz_44100Hz_16bit_30sec.wav

http://www.mediacollege.com/audio/tone/files/100Hz_44100Hz_16bit_30sec.mp3



I recently read that "Equalizer APO" does not introduce distortion, but I have not yet downloaded it and tried the above test.

 

http://sourceforge.net/projects/equalizerapo/

 

Mike

 



I've been using Equalizer APO for awhile, and I haven't noticed any introduced distortion or related issues (and I definitely hear it in a lot of other software EQ's). I definitely recommend you try it when you have the time, though it does have a slightly steep learning curve.
Just because the distortion is there doesn't mean it's audible.
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Originally Posted by ToddTheMetalGod View Post



Just because the distortion is there doesn't mean it's audible.

 



I'm well aware of that, but if the distortion isn't audible, who cares?
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Just because the distortion is there doesn't mean it's audible.

 



I'm well aware of that, but if the distortion isn't audible, who cares?

I think that is his point? 

 

Anyway, has anyone heard the HD800 with a B22 and compared it to something like the HDVA600 or GSX? 

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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post
 

Yes, that's a great thread:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/729976/matching-headphones-cables-amplifiers-harder-than-it-should-be-very-long-post

 

Houston.  So close, yet so far.

 

:-)

Sorry about that!

 

One question:  could you point me toward your post on the HD800 mod you showed in the picture?

 

J_T

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Originally Posted by dogears View Post

Anyone here who has tried the HD800 with the Geek Out 1000? Feedback please? TIA!
I'm currently liking the HD800 with (just) the Dared MP5 smily_headphones1.gif
FWIW, I use the 800 with the GO 720. It's a good combination especially with the 3D awesomifier. IMO, it's a fairly neutral DAC which lets the 800 display its strengths and very revealing of the source. The amp can be loud if you are not careful.
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I think that is his point? 

 

 


Possibly. It read like it could have gone either way.
Edited by Taowolf51 - Yesterday at 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Justin_Time View Post
...

Vioelectric V181
Bryston BHA-1 (a little dull in the midrange)
RWA Corvina
MAD Ear+ HD (missing some bass and treble)
Fosgate Signature (nice added bass if you need it)
EC Super 7
Bakoon HA-21 (warmest sound)
HeadAmp GS-X Mk2 (silky smooth)
Cavalli Liquid Fire (very accurate)
Woo WA5 (gonzo bass)
EAR PH-4 (tube heaven)

...

This is exactly what I was looking for, amps side by side comparison in short description. Guess I will be buying Cavalli soon :)

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Originally Posted by lin0003 View Post

I think that is his point? 

 

 


Possibly. It read like it could have gone either way.
Yeah that was my point tongue.gif.
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Originally Posted by Canadian411 View Post
 

This is exactly what I was looking for, amps side by side comparison in short description. Guess I will be buying Cavalli 

If you like the Cavalli, it may be helpful to read my update on tube rolling with this amp in the High-end section.  The Cavalli has very high resolution--and so is the HD800--so you can get exactly the sound you want with the right tubes.  This post may save you some money:  

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/729976/matching-headphones-cables-amplifiers-harder-than-it-should-be-very-long-post/30#post_10889959

 

As a pennant, you can also read the very long original post on matching amps and cables to various headphones.

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